@no1marauder said"Mark Adams noted that both Khelif and Yu-ting are women."
I call "BS".:
"Some have cast doubt on the initial ruling from the IBA that disqualified her from the 2023 competition. Beacham noted that the IBA said Khelif and another disqualified boxer, Taiwan’s Lin Yu‑ting, did not have a “testosterone examination” but instead a “separate and recognized test.” [b]But the IBA refused to explain the test it used and said the specif ...[text shortened]... d Championships in Istanbul."
https://www.wired.com/story/imane-khelif-olympic-boxer-controversy/
Both had been disqualified from other prior events because X and Y chromosomes were found in both of them. The Olympic committee lowered its standards in order to avoid criticism.
HA...yeah, good luck with THAT!
@Kilroy70 saidI've already shown that is a falsehood.
"Mark Adams noted that both Khelif and Yu-ting are women."
Both had been disqualified from other prior events because X and Y chromosomes were found in both of them. The Olympic committee lowered its standards in order to avoid criticism.
HA...yeah, good luck with THAT!
Keep up.
@wildgrass saidThat she had elevated levels of anything. The IBA, a Russian dominated organization, banned her and another boxer halfway through a competition but refuses to give any specifics even as to what test was used. Her main "violation" seems to have been beating a Russian woman.
Of what?
@Kilroy70 said"The IOC said it made its eligibility decisions on boxers based on the gender-related rules that applied at the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Olympics."
"Mark Adams noted that both Khelif and Yu-ting are women."
Both had been disqualified from other prior events because X and Y chromosomes were found in both of them. The Olympic committee lowered its standards in order to avoid criticism.
HA...yeah, good luck with THAT!
https://www.nbcchicago.com/paris-2024-summer-olympics/what-happened-with-imane-khelif-boxer-who-had-gender-test-issue-at-olympics/3508367/
@no1marauder saidI just read this again, as I did not get your point with all the fluff in this post. Still don’t.
I call "BS".:
"Some have cast doubt on the initial ruling from the IBA that disqualified her from the 2023 competition. Beacham noted that the IBA said Khelif and another disqualified boxer, Taiwan’s Lin Yu‑ting, did not have a “testosterone examination” but instead a “separate and recognized test.” [b]But the IBA refused to explain the test it used and said the specif ...[text shortened]... d Championships in Istanbul."
https://www.wired.com/story/imane-khelif-olympic-boxer-controversy/
A man boxes a woman. His straight-on facial blow sends her reeling.
She cannot stand up to it,collapses.
If Marauder were attacked by a gorilla, …………oh , never mind.
I call BS. Marauder, shelve that research crap and tell us it was OK? Or, be honest.
@AverageJoe1 saidI never said that.
So, the clip speaks for itself, and speaks for getting men the hell out of women's sports. I am so angry, I am as angry as Zhalanzi gets when he discusses flowers and cupcakes.
PS: Suzianne said it is ok for me in the heading to use guys when referring to both male and female of the species. Does it also apply to any manufactured creature?
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/boxing-imane-khelif-angela-carini-b2589501.html
Stop misrepresenting me.
@AverageJoe1 saidHer name is Kamala.
Not convenient , Mott. I guess anyone can interpret anything. Some, like me, interpret Kamal to be a socialist. Marauder says she is not. Now he will say that he did not say that. And the world turns..................
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@AverageJoe1 saidI'm not responsible for your functional illiteracy.
I just read this again, as I did not get your point with all the fluff in this post. Still don’t.
A man boxes a woman. His straight-on facial blow sends her reeling.
She cannot stand up to it,collapses.
If Marauder were attacked by a gorilla, …………oh , never mind.
I call BS. Marauder, shelve that research crap and tell us it was OK? Or, be honest.
Read it again and note the part where Khelif is a woman and has been competing in international women's event for years.
EDIT: Here's her record. https://boxrec.com/en/box-am/899786?allSports=y
38 wins, 9 losses. Only 6 wins by knockout.
@wildgrass said"You don't know this athletes chrimosomes"
You don't know this athletes chrimosomes. Hospitals don't either and they dont use chromosomes to assign gender at birth, so you are suggesting an alternative form of assignment for athletic competition?
Possibly something needs to change. This is a female who seems to produce excessive testosterone compared to her competitors.
I personally don't know. Should I?
"Hospitals don't either"
I wonder why that is
"and they dont use chromosomes to assign gender at birth"
When you were assigned a gender at birth, was any particular physical characteristic taken into consideration? Or was it determined by a coin flip?
"so you are suggesting an alternative form of assignment for athletic competition?"
Yeah, they could flip a coin. Heads it's a boy, tails it's a girl.
@Kilroy70 said
"You don't know this athletes chrimosomes"
I personally don't know. Should I?
"Hospitals don't either"
I wonder why that is
"and they dont use chromosomes to assign gender at birth"
When you were assigned a gender at birth, was any particular physical characteristic taken into consideration? Or was it determined by a coin flip?
"so y ...[text shortened]... for athletic competition?"
Yeah, they could flip a coin. Heads it's a boy, tails it's a girl.
When you were assigned a gender at birth, was any particular physical characteristic taken into consideration?
Yes of course captain obvious, but twas you that brought up chromosomes then wasnt it?
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@wildgrass saidIt seems odd that marauder, in his sprint to find evidence, apparently didn't see anything explaining how anyone knew about the XY chromosomes. There is a rare condition where a person can have one of each chromosome but have female genitalia. This is the most likely explanation of how a 'female' can exhibit the strength and power of a man. Testing for chromosomes is not expensive or exotic, and if anyone thinks it is they are still living in the 20th century.When you were assigned a gender at birth, was any particular physical characteristic taken into consideration?
Yes of course captain obvious, but twas you that brought up chromosomes then wasnt it?
@AverageJoe1 saidYou seem to get your knickers in a twist about nothing-burgers a lot.
I just read this again, as I did not get your point with all the fluff in this post. Still don’t.
A man boxes a woman. His straight-on facial blow sends her reeling.
She cannot stand up to it,collapses.
If Marauder were attacked by a gorilla, …………oh , never mind.
I call BS. Marauder, shelve that research crap and tell us it was OK? Or, be honest.
Therapy?
@shavixmir saidShav says it is nothing for men to compete against women.
You seem to get your knickers in a twist about nothing-burgers a lot.
Therapy?
Someone ask him the question SHouse would not answer.
Would you approve, at a swim meet with your daughter or granddaughter, been competing with girls all her life and is going for her major win today, that the organizers of the meet allowed a man with big muscles and large hands and feet to compete against her? What a simple question. Why, goodness me, no mention of chromosomes.