@Kilroy70 saidYes, I did - it was claimed by a now banned Russian dominated organization which now refuses to say what test it used or the specific results. The procedures used by the Olympic Committee revealed no such abnormalities. Nor has this fighter exhibited the "strength and power of a man"; she has 6 knockouts in 47 fights (the stoppage the other day counts as a knockout).
It seems odd that marauder, in his sprint to find evidence, apparently didn't see anything explaining how anyone knew about the XY chromosomes. There is a rare condition where a person can have one of each chromosome but have female genitalia. This is the most likely explanation of how a 'female' can exhibit the strength and power of a man. Testing for chromosomes is not expensive or exotic, and if anyone thinks it is they are still living in the 20th century.
@shavixmir saidShav. How can I make the point more simple. IF you and I are in a high school, and we box, and an event comes up, should boys compete against girls?
You seem to get your knickers in a twist about nothing-burgers a lot.
Therapy?
Should boys compete against girls in a swim contest? I know Marauder in all his omnipotence will respond that it depends on what the school rules are, or what the entry requirements are, but it does not, because that is not my question. Those facts are not incorporated into this question.
You people do not answer questions. You are SHOuse.
@Suzianne saidYou said that months ago. I said it is weird that someone will say 'you guys' to a group which includes girls, and that it is better to say y'all. You said it is appropriate (you def did not use that word) to refer to girls as guys in such a scenario. So, you said that girls can be called guys. Tell us you said it, or lie.
I never said that.
Stop misrepresenting me.
@wildgrass saidnope, chromosomes don’t change
Born female.
a birth defect that was misunderstood
some folks had a kid, didn’t know what it was so they called it a girl, now the world is expected to play along
@Mott-The-Hoople saidChromosomes are not used to assign gender.
nope, chromosomes don’t change
a birth defect that was misunderstood
some folks had a kid, didn’t know what it was so they called it a girl, now the world is expected to play along
@Mott-The-Hoople saidI know you want this to be about which bathroom she can use.
nope, chromosomes don’t change
a birth defect that was misunderstood
some folks had a kid, didn’t know what it was so they called it a girl, now the world is expected to play along
But I think the last time chromosome analysis was done on Olympic athletes was 1996.
There's certainly a debate topic about what criteria should be used to determine Olympic eligibility that goes beyond what we normally use to define gender. But you'd likely result in transgendering dozens of female athletes in the process.
Hormone levels used to be more common, until it became the norm to supplement hormones to achieve just below the max level for eligibility.
@AverageJoe1 saidIf I didn't use the word you used, then I didn't say that, did I?
You said that months ago. I said it is weird that someone will say 'you guys' to a group which includes girls, and that it is better to say y'all. You said it is appropriate (you def did not use that word) to refer to girls as guys in such a scenario. So, you said that girls can be called guys. Tell us you said it, or lie.
Stop misrepresenting me.
@wildgrass said“I know you want this to be about which bathroom she can use.”
I know you want this to be about which bathroom she can use.
But I think the last time chromosome analysis was done on Olympic athletes was 1996.
There's certainly a debate topic about what criteria should be used to determine Olympic eligibility that goes beyond what we normally use to define gender. But you'd likely result in transgendering dozens of female athletes ...[text shortened]... until it became the norm to supplement hormones to achieve just below the max level for eligibility.
you do? 😂.
the majority of people are normal…we don’t want to live in your confused world.
you cant grasp birth defects.
anyone that can look at that person and think it is a woman is just plain delirious
@Suzianne saidYou refer to the word appropriate. I think you had said 'OK', I just used the word appropriate because my writing is being read by some adults. Settle, little feller.
If I didn't use the word you used, then I didn't say that, did I?
Stop misrepresenting me.
You got me. You did not say appropriate, you said OK.
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidThe majority of people are not Olympic athletes either.
“I know you want this to be about which bathroom she can use.”
you do? 😂.
the majority of people are normal…we don’t want to live in your confused world.
you cant grasp birth defects.
anyone that can look at that person and think it is a woman is just plain delirious
Chromosome abnormalities are found in Olympic athletes at 200x the rate found in the human population. You suggest forcing them to transition genders?
Or we go by looks? Like a beauty pageant lol? They're female boxers, mate.
@Kilroy70 saidThat's not even necessarily true.https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/swyer-syndrome/
@wildgrass
"Humans and most mammals have two sex chromosomes, the X and Y. Females have two X chromosomes in their cells, while males have X and Y chromosomes in their cells."
This has nothing to do with transgenders or people who self identify as being male or female. The "female" in question has X and Y chromosomes in "her" cells. The Olympic committee in charge of the ...[text shortened]... s is afraid of angering members of the WOKE community, so they allowed a biological male to compete.
@wildgrass saidyou posted some words…they dont make any sense.
The majority of people are not Olympic athletes either.
Chromosome abnormalities are found in Olympic athletes at 200x the rate found in the human population. You suggest forcing them to transition genders?
Or we go by looks? Like a beauty pageant lol? They're female boxers, mate.
I think the problem here is most liberals are very unattractive, look at Trump shooter, look at the people at these riots
😂. they just b tryin to find a train to ride on.
would you like to jump in the bed with that hawt female boxer? 😂
would you jump in the
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYou suggested that the IOC use appearance to assign gender, possibly other than what was assigned at birth.
you posted some words…they dont make any sense.
I think the problem here is most liberals are very unattractive, look at Trump shooter, look at the people at these riots
😂. they just b tryin to find a train to ride on.
would you like to jump in the bed with that hawt female boxer? 😂
would you jump in the
@no1marauder saidYou're missing an important point. One organization might only use a quick visual inspection and say "female", and another might test for testosterone levels and yet another does a genetics test. So it's not surprising there could be different results for different tests. This could account for various organizations not wanting to make public how they go about testing and what their results show.
Yes, I did - it was claimed by a now banned Russian dominated organization which now refuses to say what test it used or the specific results. The procedures used by the Olympic Committee revealed no such abnormalities. Nor has this fighter exhibited the "strength and power of a man"; she has 6 knockouts in 47 fights (the stoppage the other day counts as a knockout).
You said:
"The IOC... made its eligibility decisions on boxers based on the gender-related rules that applied at the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Olympics."
So what were those gender-related rules, or is that being kept a secret as well.
@Kilroy70 saidIf a boxer, who has competed in women's events for years including at the prior Olympics, is to be banned on such grounds it is required due process to reveal any tests and their specific findings. This wasn't done.
You're missing an important point. One organization might only use a quick visual inspection and say "female", and another might test for testosterone levels and yet another does a genetics test. So it's not surprising there could be different results for different tests. This could account for various organizations not wanting to make public how they go about testing and wh ...[text shortened]... o Olympics."[/i]
So what were those gender-related rules, or is that being kept a secret as well.