@earl-of-trumps saidWow. I'm amazed. Only two "reports".
Institutional "legalized" racism by leftists.
Seattle City Council Member Suggests Firing White Officers in Massive Reduction of Police Department
[i]The Seattle City Council is facing something of a dilemma in its popular pledge to cut the police budget by 50 percent. To do so would require firing a significant number of police officers, which is also pop ...[text shortened]... eattle-city-council-member-suggests-firing-white-officers-in-massive-reduction-of-police-department/
LOL. you leftists are funny. Can't take freedom of speech? All I did was post a
link and quote from it.
@sleepyguy saidDon't worry, SleepyGuy, it may break Civil Rights laws But it's for a good cause,
To combat racism with racism is racism.
a good RACIST cause.
Relax, man.
@kevcvs57 But it’s not racism if it’s an attempt to level up after years of racism.
Yes it is racism, Kev. Just because - in this case, breaking the law "feels good",
does not mean you are a righteous person. No, kev, you broke the law.
Punishing today's "white" people in lieu of yesterday's racists is about as racist as it gets.
"Look! His skin's white. GET HIM!"
@earl-of-trumps saidThis is the same misguided "positive discrimination" that was prevalent in
Institutional "legalized" racism by leftists.
the 80s and 90s in sex equality. A company I worked for decided to favour
women over men to address their imbalance in the workforce. I'm totally against it.
All discrimination is bad discrimination.
What's depressing is that these race issues are exactly the same as those I and many others were demonstrating against 40 years ago, it seems that the age of enlightenment is yet to come. We are if anything becoming more endarkened. I'm a white man with quite a good tan, accidently acquired from living in the tropics, and a lot of Indonesians I meet have paler skin than I do, so in comparative terms I can no longer be described as a 'white man.' It gets confusing, unless one ignores the whole skin pigmentation thing, then life gets a lot easier, and we can get on with more important stuff. 'We fade to Grey.'
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@earl-of-trumps saidOkay, so this is the idea of a single city council member. It sounds like a lousy idea, but since it's not an idea that has actually been taken up and passed by the council, I would say it's not worth getting overly outraged about.
Institutional "legalized" racism by leftists.
Seattle City Council Member Suggests Firing White Officers in Massive Reduction of Police Department
[i]The Seattle City Council is facing something of a dilemma in its popular pledge to cut the police budget by 50 percent. To do so would require firing a significant number of police officers, which is also pop ...[text shortened]... eattle-city-council-member-suggests-firing-white-officers-in-massive-reduction-of-police-department/
A better idea: get ahold of the records of each police officer on the force and study them. Do psychological reevaluations. Give some paper and pencil exams to assess which officers know the proper procedures. By these means the chaff can be separated from the wheat, and fired.
@mchill saidWESTSIDE REPRESENT
@Earl-of-Trumps
In keeping with the proud tradition of right wing propaganda you're cherry picking only part of the story you want people to know about. The real story is the city council member suggested this only as as part of a plan to make the police dept. more racially diverse, and it was never adopted by the full counsel, and will never become policy. Ideas are consta ...[text shortened]... population - and we like it that way. So, hate us all you want, but we're not going to change!
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@kevcvs57 saidThat being said, “fire only white people” isn’t something anyone really wants to read.
But it’s not racism if it’s an attempt to level up after years of racism.
It’s a perfectly open systemic policy to be agreed upon by whites and ethnic minorities in order to address an issue arising from historical racism that was only agreed upon by whites. If you cannot see the difference then I don’t know what to tell you.
Do you think whites can be racist against whit ...[text shortened]... ree with the veteran programmes that increase their job and educational prospects over non veterans.
First of all: it’s not racist. There is no such thing as race.
It is, however, discrimination. And if it was actually said (which I have to doubt... and I doubt even more that it is policy... but seeing it’s America... who knows... maybe people get thrown into the flat earth lava pit... Americans are strange that way...) it should be addressed.
And the OP suggests that they want to fire on seniority, but that one group is over-represented in an age category... the answer is not firing white or black people, but to create bandwidths for job reallocation.
So. First you make sure there are other jobs for people to go to.
Then you decide how many workers you need.
Then you create the bandwidths, for example:
20 to 30 years old
30 to 40 years old
Etc.
And say you need 50% less employees, you cut 50% within each bandwidth.
There are many good reasons for using the bandwidth method, for example: keeping the workforce younger, more representative of the community, a better mix, etc.
And you must make sure, as much as possible, that people go from job to job (re-schooling, etc.) and don’t become unemployed.
Unemployement leads to frustration, poverty and ultimately costs lots of money.
All situations which are not good for individuals, families or the community.
@shavixmir saidSo, are you saying people should be fired by how close they are to retirement?
That being said, “fire only white people” isn’t something anyone really wants to read.
First of all: it’s not racist. There is no such thing as race.
It is, however, discrimination. And if it was actually said (which I have to doubt... and I doubt even more that it is policy... but seeing it’s America... who knows... maybe people get thrown into the flat earth lava pit. ...[text shortened]... costs lots of money.
All situations which are not good for individuals, families or the community.
That doesn't seem right either. That's Corporatism at its worst.
@shavixmir
And just kick out people because they are too old even though they might have skills not around in the 30 yo set.
Just for your information, I am a genuine old fart, 78 years old, it excellent health and still employed working on very technically demanding equipment like ion etchers, sputtering machines, chemical vapor deposition, electron microscopes, ion implanters, hydraulics, pneumatics, electronics, computer controls and the like.
And I keep my job BECAUSE of my long term skills having grown up with all this technology.
You can't find some with my skills from Devry institute where a 20 year old would never have heard of an actual IC or able to fix a cryopump, that person would be a half ass expert on programmable logic or some such.
Like I said, at least in MY case, if I was fired for being too old they would be paying several companies 200 dollars an hour and plane fare and hotel bills and food to do what I do for 30 bucks an hour.
That is a fact. They actually laid me off a few years ago and that is exactly what they did so instead of giving me 60 K a year wages they spent 200 K in these company experts they literally paid 200 dollars an hour.
So they rehired me and I save their asses every time I go to work.