Non-citizens allowed to vote in NYC

@cliff-mashburn said
And how would they show this?

Non-citizens have to register to vote, just like citizens do. Their status as either citizens or legal non-citizens would show this.

Note that I'm talking about *registering* to vote; I'm not talking about bringing ID or paperwork on voting day.

@cliff-mashburn said
How would they determine if they are paying taxes? Bring a W-2 income tax form? How could they do that when libs are screaming about how racist it is to even require an ID to vote?

Social security number?

@shavixmir said
Social security number?

Oh yeah I'm sure that'd be fine with all the people already complaining about any sort of voter ID laws being suggested.

@cliff-mashburn said
Oh yeah I'm sure that'd be fine with all the people already complaining about any sort of voter ID laws being suggested.

You already need to that *register* to vote. You don't need it the day of the vote.

@vivify said
You already need to that *register* to vote. You don't need it the day of the vote.

But they aren't talking about only people that have a job being allowed to vote, they want EVERYBODY , citizen or not, being allowed to vote.
Because the Dems know exactly what party they will be voting for, don't they?

@cliff-mashburn said
they want EVERYBODY , citizen or not, being allowed to vote.

Wrong. NYC wants every *legal* resident to be allowed to vote, citizen or non-citizen.

@averagejoe1 said
Any honest heartfelt thoughts on this? I asked it of a pitiful contributor on another thread, who could only muster a 'it's of no concern to me..not my business'. That's OK, though.
So what does everyone think? Noncitizens vote on how we spend our money? Unbelievable.

https://abc7ny.com/nyc-voting-rights-immigrant-non-citizens/11315191/

If they're here legally, I see no reason that it's so terrible to allow them to vote in local elections. National elections are different, as the standards have to be uniform across the country.

I have to say, though, that the rule seems to be playing a bit of a sleight of hand trick.

According to the article:

Under the bill, people who have lived in the city for at least 30 days and are legal permanent residents in the United States would be allowed to vote.

That includes DACA recipients, green card holders and people with workers permits.

That is a contradiction in terms. DACA recipients are not "legal permanent residents." DACA just means that any action against the person has been deferred on a temporary basis.

DACA recipients are in the US illegally, but are being allowed to stay as a "temporary" courtesy. Lumping them in the same category as green card holders in terms of voting rights is not very honest.

@cliff-mashburn said
Oh yeah I'm sure that'd be fine with all the people already complaining about any sort of voter ID laws being suggested.

How do they pay taxes then?

@shavixmir said
How do they pay taxes then?

ahhh, now you are seeing the problem with illegal invasions

@sh76 said
If they're here legally, I see no reason that it's so terrible to allow them to vote in local elections. National elections are different, as the standards have to be uniform across the country.

I have to say, though, that the rule seems to be playing a bit of a sleight of hand trick.

According to the article:

[quote]Under the bill, people who have lived in the city fo ...[text shortened]... umping them in the same category as green card holders in terms of voting rights is not very honest.

lets just pretend we dont know what the democrats are up to

@sh76 said
DACA recipients are in the US illegally, but are being allowed to stay as a "temporary" courtesy. Lumping them in the same category as green card holders in terms of voting rights is not very honest.

https://www.immigrationhelp.org/learning-center/can-daca-recipients-become-u-s-citizens

"If you’re a DACA recipient who entered the country lawfully - that is, with a valid U.S. visa, then you satisfy the lawful entry requirement for green cards."

There seems to be a distinction between DACA recipients who entered the U.S. legally and those who entered illegally.

@mott-the-hoople said
ahhh, now you are seeing the problem with illegal invasions

This law is for *legal* non-citizens.

@shavixmir said
So you agree that non-Americans should be allowed to vote then, if they're paying taxes...

Only citizens of the US should vote. If you do not want to pay another country's tax, do not go there. It is not your country.

You vote with your feet.

@vivify said
It's only for city-wide elections. Their votes won't count for state or national elections.

The reasoning doesn't change. No election should have real citizen's votes diluted by votes of non-citizens.

@mott-the-hoople said
lets just pretend we dont know what the democrats are up to

Let's say you're right: this is all a plot to flood the voting pool with legal immigrants, because they tend to vote for Dems.

Don't you see something wrong Republicans if a rise in legal immigrants is a threat them having power? Maybe conservatives should change their model of appealing mostly to white Christians.