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@AverageJoe1 saidWhere oratory and persuasion have failed, profanity is unlikely to succeed.
https://gazette.com/news/wex/f-bombs-away-democrats-unleash-profanity-and-vulgarity-in-war-with-trump/article_35aa2be2-46cb-530b-b73f-667d7f48bda7.html
You guys just keep on giving. Repubs do not do profanity on a regular, programed, basis,,,,,,,it is obvious that this is a huge overnight talking point that your 'leaders' (whoever they are) have dicated to everyone in ...[text shortened]... source, it will be there.
Thinking it sounds like alpha males, etc, it actually is quite weak.
Where lecturing and scolding have failed, profanity is a sign of frustration that other people are not so easily controlled, or that one's control skills are not up to the task.
Regression to adolescent rage and profanity indicates a lack of anger-management training, as well as a lack of understanding of real-world, practical tools of power.
Some people have mentally never left school, so when it comes to life outside the home, they only have the teacher-student dynamic to emulate. Some people believe that they are now the teachers, and that everyone else should shut up, sit still, listen, and obey -- which of course might come across as condescending and inspire resentment and opposition.
To be fair, another view is that the anger (if not the profanity) is justified by this: that a lot of people thought we were all playing the same game (the web of social contracts, domestic and international), and some people are brazenly breaking or ignoring the rules that most other people thought we were playing by.
@Suzianne saidi called him some not very creative slurs and then pointed out those nasty (but well deserved ) didn't take away his healthcare or education or rights or caused him to die because of an ectopic pregnancy like how republicans are doing (not even always with nice non naughty words)
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I don't even know what this post said, but since some butt-hurt entitled Trumpublican alerted it, I must say that I fully endorse its message.
after that i threw some more slurs at him
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@AverageJoe1 saidAs usual, you ignorance is stunning but predictable. Your assertion that anything can be done to certain people is hardly consistent with your claims that MAGA is all about "stopping big government" ( suggesting government has unrestricted power over anyone hardly supports that position). You might also want to review the wording of the 5th Amendment.
If someone cannot prove to be legally here, we can do any thing that we want to do to them. Prison for life, or send them back. Right now, its bye bye. I truly think you libs think the onus is on our government to prove they should NOT be here. No, you are wrong. They need to prove they have rights, or leave. Geez.
You suggest there may be a few among them that t ...[text shortened]... o sir. Not to victims of attacks like us. I think I will go out and see if my car has been keyed.
But basically talking to you is a waste of time; you have no coherent political philosophy and simply mindlessly parrot back talking points you have been spoon fed by right wing propaganda outlets. Nor do you have sufficient knowledge to even understand the points raised and are too lazy to even read links or even the Constitution itself.
You're a pitiful, gullible fool.
@AverageJoe1 saidThat is absolutely insane.
If someone cannot prove to be legally here, we can do any thing that we want to do to them. Prison for life, or send them back.
This is laying the groundwork to justify a holocaust—to murder millions "just because we can."
I cannot believe how monstrously void of any empathy, morality, or basic decency you are. You should be absolutely ashamed, yet you aren't, and never will be.
@no1marauder saidAnything can be done, legally, to certain people. Where are you coming from? Geez. And MAGA, while stopping big govt, is not affected by those people, we just need get them out of here. Doing Maga is just doing Maga.
As usual, you ignorance is stunning but predictable. Your assertion that anything can be done to certain people is hardly consistent with your claims that MAGA is all about "stopping big government" ( suggesting government has unrestricted power over anyone hardly supports that position). You might also want to review the wording of the 5th Amendment.
But basically tal ...[text shortened]... are too lazy to even read links or even the Constitution itself.
You're a pitiful, gullible fool.
All the rest of of your post, let us not leave out common sense. IF you apply common sense, there is no needing to resort to that copy of the constitution in your pocket, sitting around gabbing at Starbuck.
I repeat, People who cannot prove they belong here must leave. Find an article that defies that logic in the constitution.
I repeat, MAGA is trying to shrink he cost and size of government. Find us some proof that MAGA is not doing that.
You are assigned to find these 2 proofs. (uhh, please leave 'philosphy' out of your findings? Please??)
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@AverageJoe1 saidSome costs are not monetary or quantifiable, just as some forms of wealth are not monetary or quantifiable.
I repeat, MAGA is trying to shrink he cost and size of government.
To use Musk's own stage metaphor, DOGE is taking a chainsaw to government instead of taking a reasonable, considerate, adult approach to reductions.
@Soothfast saidYou know what I meant. It just irritated your sensibilities. If someone breaks into your house you would 'get thtem the hell out of there". You see, they are not legal, they break the law. We can put them jail (that is the 'do what we want to do,' under the law). Yeah, I guess it does not sound pretty , How would you say it? Put them up in a hotel?
That is absolutely insane.
This is laying the groundwork to justify a holocaust—to murder millions "just because we can."
I cannot believe how monstrously void of any empathy, morality, or basic decency you are. You should be absolutely ashamed, yet you aren't, and never will be.
Would you exercise empathy morality and decency to a guy breaking into your house.? OK, now do the thingy about he was freezing, had not coat, or whatever, which changes the premise, doesn't it.
You will not respond to this without getting all heated up. It is not a big deal, we just chat here. You have to say you would make him leave the house. Please take it from there. I don't think Marauder's constitution would apply to getting him out of your house.
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@no1marauder , @Soothfast
I have a different view. I think @AverageJoe1 might just be a gadfly who likes to wind people up, and that he doesn't necessarily believe everything he writes.
@AverageJoe1 saidMAGA is trying to expand the power of government while at the same time making it less useful to the People and efficient. While that might sound contrary, it's perfectly in line with the designs of the oligarchy that Trump and Musk represent.
Anything can be done, legally, to certain people. Where are you coming from? Geez. And MAGA, while stopping big govt, is not affected by those people, we just need get them out of here. Doing Maga is just doing Maga.
All the rest of of your post, let us not leave out common sense. IF you apply common sense, there is no needing to resort to that copy of the consti ...[text shortened]... e assigned to find these 2 proofs. (uhh, please leave 'philosphy' out of your findings? Please??)
I suggested you read the 5th Amendment; you refused to do so. It is not up to individuals to "prove" anything to the State or face punishment - the burden is always on the State to justify any deprivation of rights through procedures that comply with due process. "Common sense" should tell you that is utterly necessary in any nation that isn't a tyranny.
@Arkturos saidHe's not smart enough to have such motives; he just pukes out whatever he is told by his propaganda outlets and the Great Man he worships.
@no1marauder , @Soothfast
I have a different view. I think @AverageJoe1 might just be a gadfly who likes to wind people up, and that he doesn't necessarily believe everything he writes.
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@AverageJoe1 saidYou are on record here having called immigrants "vermin," and have spoken of "extermination." You evince a pattern that makes clear that you would happily follow your Führer without question to whatever end, no matter the atrocity.
You know what I meant. It just irritated your sensibilities. If someone breaks into your house you would 'get thtem the hell out of there". You see, they are not legal, they break the law. We can put them jail (that is the 'do what we want to do,' under the law). Yeah, I guess it does not sound pretty , How would you say it? Put them up in a hotel?
Would you e ...[text shortened]... it from there. I don't think Marauder's constitution would apply to getting him out of your house.
Where do you draw the line? Your Glorious Leader has already broken uncounted laws in the past couple months, of that there's no question. Where do you draw the line? If masked goons ambushing a woman on the street in broad daylight and whisking her 1500 miles away without charges doesn't give you pause, then where do you draw the line?
If you cannot say what you mean, then there is no reason to believe anything you say. It's not even a question of right or wrong. It's one thing to spend all day every day spouting rubbish in this forum, but if the rubbish you spout isn't even representative of what you truly believe, then your presence here is an even greater waste of everyone's time than an initial assessment indicates.
If someone is on US soil but has otherwise committed no crime other than to be present without proper paperwork, that is not an offense that warrants imprisonment. The argument of right-wingers is that "illegal immigrants" drain government resources, but I can hardly think of a bigger drain on those resources than throwing the immigrants in prison at taxpayers' expense. And the children? What happens to them?
There is absolutely no proof that immigrants, illegal or otherwise, pose an undue burden on social services. Quite the contrary, immigrants are a boon to the US economy. To whatever extent they receive social services, they more than make up for it with their economic activity and taxes.
The right-wing propaganda you eat up like slop at a trough cherry picks one rare case or the other to create the illusion that somehow all the immigrants are stealing your cheese, but in point of fact you throw your cheese away yourself when you react viscerally to such outliers—ignoring the rest of the data—and applaud draconian dragnets that are so ill-conceived they actually snare US citizens along with the rest. There isn't a single instance in history when a nation prospered by persecuting millions among its population. This is showmanship for the simple minded, and YOU are the intended audience.
@AverageJoe1 saidBECAUSE I DON'T PROMOTE CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION!
There is nothing false about this premise.
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How do you promote changing the constitution, which amounts to tearing it up, when you just said that we the republicans want to tear it up. Geez. Y'all are coming off your rockers.
What makes you think you can get away with lying like this?
Republicans want to change the Constitution to fit them. They already got away with ignoring the Fourteenth Amendment, I guess they think they can just rip the rest up so that Donald can stay in the White House.
Over our dead bodies.