@Soothfast saidExactly.
You are on record here having called immigrants "vermin," and have spoken of "extermination." You evince a pattern that makes clear that you would happily follow your Führer without question to whatever end, no matter the atrocity.
Where do you draw the line? Your Glorious Leader has already broken uncounted laws in the past couple months, of that there's no question ...[text shortened]... among its population. This is showmanship for the simple minded, and YOU are the intended audience.
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@Soothfast saidYou Said:: """If someone is on US soil but has otherwise committed no crime other than to be present without proper paperwork, that is not an offense that warrants imprisonment. The argument of right-wingers is that "illegal immigrants" drain government resources, but I can hardly think of a bigger drain on those resources than throwing the immigrants in prison at taxpayers' expense. And the children? What happens to them?"""
You are on record here having called immigrants "vermin," and have spoken of "extermination." You evince a pattern that makes clear that you would happily follow your Führer without question to whatever end, no matter the atrocity.
Where do you draw the line? Your Glorious Leader has already broken uncounted laws in the past couple months, of that there's no question ...[text shortened]... among its population. This is showmanship for the simple minded, and YOU are the intended audience.
""There is absolutely no proof that immigrants, illegal or otherwise, pose an undue burden on social services. Quite the contrary, immigrants are a boon to the US economy. To whatever extent they receive social services, they more than make up for it with their economic activity and taxes.""""
You talk about draining resoources and what happens to the children that they chose to have with them. I have said 'choices' a lot in my posts, too, right over your heads. As to vermin, you leave out context. I have never said exterminate anyone, leave it at that. Silly.
That is not what I am talking abut. I mention them breaking the law and being deported, all good and propler. You want to go right into 'explaining' stuff, like it doesnt warrant imprisonent. You are right. It warrants sending them home. You go into taxpayer expense, whatever. I said nothing about expense or how much the cpst us. But YOU want to discombobulate my premise. I simply say if the cannot prove they belong here , they go home . I am that simple. You want to mix it up, for no reason. You gonna let those invaders stay in your house? You didn't answer.
Next you say they pose no burden. Excuse me, that would be another thread. You can tell us 20M people like that are not a problem?? You gonna tell new Yorkers that? Are you? Tell them, here, in this thread. I will forward it to the Mayor.
Your 'boon to the US economy' comment???? Jesus. Do a thread on that. I am simply saying that with our MAGA movement, we have to be sure everyone here should be here. You think it is OK for people to be here who have not earned their way.
Tell everyone here that you think it is OK for aliens to break our laws. You say they cost nothing , but we give them cell phones, hotel rooms and a whole lot of other stuff. Free medical care. Send them to an ER. It will be free, to them. Are you suggesting they don't get sick. Have babies? Who pays for that? We are $35T in debt.
Curious: Up top, you put 'illegal immigrants' in highlighted quotes. Why do you do that?
@AverageJoe1 saidToo bad the Constitution stands in your way of doing this, too.
Anything can be done, legally, to certain people. Where are you coming from? Geez. And MAGA, while stopping big govt, is not affected by those people, we just need get them out of here. Doing Maga is just doing Maga.
All the rest of of your post, let us not leave out common sense. IF you apply common sense, there is no needing to resort to that copy of the consti ...[text shortened]... e assigned to find these 2 proofs. (uhh, please leave 'philosphy' out of your findings? Please??)
As I said, you want to shred it so that your Orange Jesus can become your Orange King. (For life, apparently.)
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@AverageJoe1 saidThe Constitution still applies.
You Said:: """If someone is on US soil but has otherwise committed no crime other than to be present without proper paperwork, that is not an offense that warrants imprisonment. The argument of right-wingers is that "illegal immigrants" drain government resources, but I can hardly think of a bigger drain on those resources than throwing the immigrants in prison at taxp ...[text shortened]... debt.
Curious: Up top, you put 'illegal immigrants' in highlighted quotes. Why do you do that?
These people are entitled to due process.
And oh yeah, people cannot be "illegal". Using facts, instead of racial slurs, they are undocumented immigrants.
@Arkturos saidNow you're giving him WAY too much credit.
@no1marauder , @Soothfast
I have a different view. I think @AverageJoe1 might just be a gadfly who likes to wind people up, and that he doesn't necessarily believe everything he writes.
@AverageJoe1 saidI would hold him until the police got there.
You know what I meant. It just irritated your sensibilities. If someone breaks into your house you would 'get thtem the hell out of there". You see, they are not legal, they break the law. We can put them jail (that is the 'do what we want to do,' under the law). Yeah, I guess it does not sound pretty , How would you say it? Put them up in a hotel?
Would you e ...[text shortened]... it from there. I don't think Marauder's constitution would apply to getting him out of your house.
"Get rid of him"? So now you suggest letting people go free after committing a crime? Try some consistency, man.
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@Suzianne saidI was speaking in general terms, not regarding a specific incident.
He made the assumption which is what made his premise false.
Not a fan of logic, are you?
Anything to just shout me down with no evidence of anything. Try again.
At least I haven't called you delusional (that I remember -- could be wrong).
As for shouting you down:
1) I hardly ever type in caps.
2) If you are still posting, then clearly you have not been shouted down.
Is this some kind of R. D. Laing game you are playing?
@Arkturos saidWell, I was speaking in exact specifics. I'm not interested in someone "generally" trying to correct me. Yeah, that's stupid.
I was speaking in general terms, not regarding a specific incident.
At least I haven't called you delusional.
As for shouting you down:
1) I hardly ever type in caps
2) If you are still posting, then clearly you have not been shouted down.
Is this some kind of R. D. Laing game you are playing?
I'm not mealy-mouthed like you so I can hopefully insult people without getting them mad at me.
You're the one playing shell games with conversation, so go get smarmy with someone else, please. I've had enough of it.
@Zahlanzi saidThen I support your message a second time.
i called him some not very creative slurs and then pointed out those nasty (but well deserved ) didn't take away his healthcare or education or rights or caused him to die because of an ectopic pregnancy like how republicans are doing (not even always with nice non naughty words)
after that i threw some more slurs at him
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@Suzianne saidI really don't know whether you are playing or being serious.
Well, I was speaking in exact specifics. I'm not interested in someone "generally" trying to correct me. Yeah, that's stupid.
I'm not mealy-mouthed like you so I can hopefully insult people without getting them mad at me.
You're the one playing shell games with conversation, so go get smarmy with someone else, please. I've had enough of it.
I was never part of a culture where insults were tokens of friendship.
The second and third lines make you sound like a boozy person who is sputtering out.
Alcohol can destroy lives, health, organs, and reputations, in case that helps.