@AverageJoe1 said'Illegal' doesn't suggest anything. It calls people illegal just because they exist, which is just wrong. 'Undocumented' is WAY more accurate.
The word illegal is hundreds f years old, and of course, applies to any one wo breaks a law. Couch it any way you like.
Then, along come some unusual people who made up the word undocumented, and tried to erase the word illegal. Make your own decision, but you will be just amazed at this. They mean different things!!! You learn a lot. here.
. "Undocumented" ...[text shortened]... ocuments, while "illegal" suggests a violation of law, which can be a more loaded and negative term.
One's words display their mindset. Stop letting your own words out you as a horrible person.
@AverageJoe1 saidWhy do you insist on portraying yourself as a horrible human being?
You Said:: """If someone is on US soil but has otherwise committed no crime other than to be present without proper paperwork, that is not an offense that warrants imprisonment. The argument of right-wingers is that "illegal immigrants" drain government resources, but I can hardly think of a bigger drain on those resources than throwing the immigrants in prison at taxp ...[text shortened]... debt.
Curious: Up top, you put 'illegal immigrants' in highlighted quotes. Why do you do that?
@Arkturos saidApparently you're not listening.
I really don't know whether you are playing or being serious.
I was never part of a culture where insults were tokens of friendship.
The second and third lines make you sound like a boozy person who is sputtering out.
Alcohol can destroy lives, health, organs, and reputations, in case that helps.
Stop jousting and step aside.
I have things to do, places to be and people to see.
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@Suzianne saidNo, no, no, people are not called illegal, nor are they actually illegal, just because they exist. Who says that.?
'Illegal' doesn't suggest anything. It calls people illegal just because they exist, which is just wrong. 'Undocumented' is WAY more accurate.
One's words display their mindset. Stop letting your own words out you as a horrible person.
FIRST, the def of illegal,
il·le·gal
/i(l)ˈlēɡ(ə)l,əˈlēɡ(ə)l/
adjective
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.
"illegal drugs"
All due respects, if someone invades the border, and an agent 'undocuments' him, takes all the info bout the immigrant, including that he entered without permission, thus broke a law,,,,(acted contrary to a law, as defined above), the agent may indeed follow his rules and regs, take all his notes, and let the man wander on into TX. Or he is somehow otherwise undocumented. We get that.
BUT, he is still illegal. He has not been found innocent , nor exonerated or anything. You tell me, I may be wrong, I don't study this stuff. When he crossed, he was illegal. Does he shed the illegal veil after getting undocumented? Is undocumented a lesser degree of illegal?
Not fair to call me horrible, I write factually. SHouse et al handle all the personal stuff. Do you think it will clear the air if I just say..'yeah y'all are right. Now can we discuss the issues''? Do you know that I just wrote that we and the rich all need to be paying the same money in taxes, see Fair Tax.
@Suzianne saidH mmmmm.I am sure I have seen many a lib post about how outdated the constitution is. It could hardly have been my side. Maybe a martian.
Your moronic MAGA fools are the ones clamoring for change. They (and you) have been conned by Trump into thinking we have to get rid of 'the other'. Y'all are the ones who desperately want to change the Constitution to be in Trump's image. If this happens, we are done as a world power.
Hey, do you know that it is those dam billionaires (Bezos, Branson, Musk, et al) that are spending all their money for Spacex, the men who will send us to mars. Would you call them Alpha, or Beta?
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@AverageJoe1 saidSo Donald Trump is an illegal? He's been actually convicted of breaking laws unlike the vast majority of people you deride as "illegals".
No, no, no, people are not called illegal, nor are they actually illegal, just because they exist. Who says that.?
FIRST, the def of illegal,
il·le·gal
/i(l)ˈlēɡ(ə)l,əˈlēɡ(ə)l/
adjective
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.
"illegal drugs"
All due respects, if someone invades the border, and an agent 'undocuments' him, takes all the ...[text shortened]... that I just wrote that we and the rich all need to be paying the same money in taxes, see Fair Tax.
Will you always refer to him as an "illegal" from now on?
@no1marauder saidI’ve got an idea. Let’s catch up with news of the day!
So Donald Trump is an illegal? He's been actually convicted of breaking laws unlike the vast majority of people you deride as "illegals".
Will you always refer to him as an "illegal" from now on?
Pick one of the things u are doing. Govt dependents being upset, smashing stuff. The really big black person (couldn’t tell man or woman, silly me) crashing 4-wheeler into TSLA, violence and hatred from your Dems. Hey they Dance during demonstrations!! Dance! Republicans, I don’t think so. Is rage a good subject?
I don’t deride the illegals. I just refer to them as lawbreakers, which is the def of illegals. Am I wrong, marauder?
Then tell us all, what would you call them? Sue says you can call them undocumented people, AS IF that releases them from having broken a law. Uhhh, whaaaatt?
@AverageJoe1 saidLock them all up!
I’ve got an idea. Let’s catch up with news of the day!
Pick one of the things u are doing. Govt dependents being upset, smashing stuff. The really big black person (couldn’t tell man or woman, silly me) crashing 4-wheeler into TSLA, violence and hatred from your Dems. Hey they Dance during demonstrations!! Dance! Republicans, I don’t think so. Is rage a good subject? ...[text shortened]... an call them undocumented people, AS IF that releases them from having broken a law. Uhhh, whaaaatt?
@AverageJoe1 saidYou mean stop talking about the fact Trump is a misogynist among other pejoratives like TRAITOR or THIEF or Dictator wannabe.
It was colloquial joking that goes on between Alpha males all the time. I can’t speak to Beta males, all prevalent on this website. The difference in the two, so you will see where I’m coming from. Is that the profanity of Democrats, which is overwhelming the radio and media waves, is obviously meant to influence a certain section of voters, I don’t know who maybe the GX ...[text shortened]... and then we can stop talking about it. Cool?
NVO. Why would I insert this. Cryptic. Disregard.
@AverageJoe1 saidI never thought about it.
H mmmmm.I am sure I have seen many a lib post about how outdated the constitution is. It could hardly have been my side. Maybe a martian.
Hey, do you know that it is those dam billionaires (Bezos, Branson, Musk, et al) that are spending all their money for Spacex, the men who will send us to mars. Would you call them Alpha, or Beta?