Obama and Clinton did what Trump did.

@Suzianne said
If it makes you feel any better, you are crying about the results of a primary. Most of your crocodile tears are merely performative.

NYC democrats didn't want a new guy so much as they didn't want the old guy.

Cuomo? Please.

NOte the infatuation of liberals with people, with personalities, even us on the Forum....You, you. you, you this, you that.
Issues are better. The communist, thank you for commenting on the communist, is a communist. YOU are saying that he is better than people that you do not like. Some voted on Kamala because they did not like Trump.
So, she gets elected. There would be no talented president. I pictured here in the press conference today,,(of course there would never have been one in her adminisitration...). Trump did not laugh or cackle or giggle or lose his cool. He is cool, you know that.....right??
But she would have cackled her guts out. Jesus.

@AverageJoe1 said
So, let me get this straight. There is us, who like the Bill, though it is not perfect. You want US to be like democrats and agree with you and the democrats? And cause taxes to go up 68%? And let illegal immigrants live here? If it would cost me one nickel, I am not going to be like you, man. You will not even denounce the Communist. So, you are OK with communis ...[text shortened]... at you can live comfortably. Uhhh, you don't want ME to pay for it, do you?? Yes, you do. brrrrr

Not PERFECT? What if it was YOUR kids losing medical insurance? MILLIONS will, but that bothers you not in the slightest, you are so far up Trump's ass you would probably say it was god's will if your kids DID lose insurance.
The cruelty of that bill is the POINT.
If they pass that bill their political career will be over come 2026.
The polls show that bill to be WILDLY unpopular like 25 points underground and it will not just be Blue states getting screwed, RED states also will have hospitals closing, Medicaid lost, Snap lost AND the national debt up by THREE TRILLION DOLLARS.
And the only thing you can come up with is its not PERFECT?
It is PERFECTLY INHUMANE, the WORSE budget bill in US history and historians will tell it like it is, the inhumane bill written by Sinister ZOMBIES who have one client on their list, and not their constituents.
They lost their balls TEN YEARS ago.
Otherwise Trump would have been out on his traitorous ass when the FIRST impeachment happened.

@AverageJoe1 said
So, let me get this straight. There is us, who like the Bill, though it is not perfect. You want US to be like democrats and agree with you and the democrats? And cause taxes to go up 68%? And let illegal immigrants live here? If it would cost me one nickel, I am not going to be like you, man. You will not even denounce the Communist. So, you are OK with communis ...[text shortened]... at you can live comfortably. Uhhh, you don't want ME to pay for it, do you?? Yes, you do. brrrrr

WHAT THE FK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, free stuff? WE PAY TAXES AND I EARNED EVERY PENNY of my SS and I don't get ANY free stuff.
I want to see CHILDREN FED instead of going hungry, I want poor folks to have medical insurance.
I want billionaires to pay their fair share of income taxes.
I want a budget bill that does not have BUILT INTO IT a 3 TRILLION dollar increase in the national debt.
I guess that makes me a nut case. SO FKING BE IT.

@sonhouse said
Not PERFECT? What if it was YOUR kids losing medical insurance? MILLIONS will, but that bothers you not in the slightest, you are so far up Trump's ass you would probably say it was god's will if your kids DID lose insurance.
The cruelty of that bill is the POINT.
If they pass that bill their political career will be over come 2026.
The polls show that bill to be WILDLY u ...[text shortened]... ago.
Otherwise Trump would have been out on his traitorous ass when the FIRST impeachment happened.

OK..If I can get it all done for you,... govt takes care of everyone,,, will you make the loser college grads pay off their student loans? It is $1.6 Trillion. See, it your loser friends can do that, I can talk the govt into using that money to pay for your health care and people who won't work.
YOu can hardly ask the govt for free stuff for these very losers.

@sonhouse said
Not PERFECT? What if it was YOUR kids losing medical insurance? MILLIONS will, but that bothers you not in the slightest, you are so far up Trump's ass you would probably say it was god's will if your kids DID lose insurance.
The cruelty of that bill is the POINT.
If they pass that bill their political career will be over come 2026.
The polls show that bill to be WILDLY u ...[text shortened]... ago.
Otherwise Trump would have been out on his traitorous ass when the FIRST impeachment happened.

My posts are written assuming everyone is normal. YOu klnow, dont have more kids than they can afford, such as that. Of course we SHOULD support the 5oM truly needy.
So, why would a normal person need govt? I know people who make $65K. (happens to be the national average income) and do not grovel for free stuff. They have med insurance, you see, You write like you dont have that. Not being personal, but I do not see what you are upset about. If someone does not qualify for medicare (they are able bodied but don't work), hell with'em.
Can you be more specific. YOu have to convince me that if someone has made bad choices that .the govt needs to take care of them? Keep it simple.
I am getting on a long flilght, signed off till tomorrow

@AverageJoe1 said
Contrare'; I asked you why you are mad at Trump.

ONE reason: SECRET police of masked men who refuse to ID themselves AND arresting US CITIZENS who happens to be brown skinned.
JUST ONE OF MANY MANY MORE. I'd LOVE to see you defend THAT NAZI tactic.

@AverageJoe1 said
My posts are written assuming everyone is normal. YOu klnow, dont have more kids than they can afford, such as that. Of course we SHOULD support the 5oM truly needy.
So, why would a normal person need govt? I know people who make $65K. (happens to be the national average income) and do not grovel for free stuff. They have med insurance, you see, You write like yo ...[text shortened]... to take care of them? Keep it simple.
I am getting on a long flilght, signed off till tomorrow

Like I said several times, it doesn't matter in the SLIGHTEST what we say or present as evidence of the inhumanity of Trump, you can NEVER accept even the SLIGHTEST hint of legal or moral issues.
That is why 'debating' with you is an exercise in futility.

@AverageJoe1 said
NOte the infatuation of liberals with people, with personalities, even us on the Forum....You, you. you, you this, you that.
Issues are better. The communist, thank you for commenting on the communist, is a communist. YOU are saying that he is better than people that you do not like. Some voted on Kamala because they did not like Trump.
So, she gets elected. ...[text shortened]... cool. He is cool, you know that.....right??
But she would have cackled her guts out. Jesus.

Missing the point, as usual.

@AverageJoe1 said
NOte the infatuation of liberals with people, with personalities, even us on the Forum....You, you. you, you this, you that.
Issues are better. The communist, thank you for commenting on the communist, is a communist. YOU are saying that he is better than people that you do not like. Some voted on Kamala because they did not like Trump.
So, she gets elected. ...[text shortened]... cool. He is cool, you know that.....right??
But she would have cackled her guts out. Jesus.

When you express anti-American views, you probably should be called out. You expect us to sit back and watch you and Trump destroy America.

And maybe you could ask Kristi Noem to be more forthcoming on her undeclared campaign donations.

https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-political-donations-income-dark-money-dhs-ethics

@AverageJoe1 said
So, let me get this straight. There is us, who like the Bill, though it is not perfect. You want US to be like democrats and agree with you and the democrats? And cause taxes to go up 68%? And let illegal immigrants live here? If it would cost me one nickel, I am not going to be like you, man. You will not even denounce the Communist. So, you are OK with communis ...[text shortened]... at you can live comfortably. Uhhh, you don't want ME to pay for it, do you?? Yes, you do. brrrrr

Missing the point, as usual.