1. Hy-Brasil
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    11 Oct '13 01:50
    Originally posted by moon1969
    There are a few conservatives in the House that are rational and not radical. But to be sure, there are some truly extreme radical conservatives in the House. And then you have the Tea Party.
    Like who ? Who are these "truly extreme radical conservatives" ?
    And for the record the tea party is not "radical". I have already posted for you their platform. Nothing radical at all.
    The truth is, you are scared to death of them. All you radical progressives are.
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    11 Oct '13 01:53
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Like who ? Who are these "truly extreme radical conservatives" ?
    And for the record the tea party is not "radical". I have already posted for you their platform. Nothing radical at all.
    The truth is, you are scared to death of them. All you radical progressives are.
    The Tea Party puts their ideology above country.
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    11 Oct '13 01:54
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The Tea Party shutdown the government.

    The CR already passed by the Senate is sitting on Boehner's desk and the House would pass it in 15 minutes, and the President would sign it immediately. The Tea Party ties Boehner's hands to not let the CR vote go to the House Floor.

    Yes, the Tea Party (and Boehner) furloughed the park rangers.
    Do you realize how absurd you sound ?
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    11 Oct '13 01:55
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The Tea Party puts their ideology above country.
    Do you actually know a single TEA Party member?
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    11 Oct '13 01:58
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Do you realize how absurd you sound ?
    Do you realize how absurd your extreme bias and lack of understanding?
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    11 Oct '13 01:59
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The Tea Party puts their ideology above country.
    Not so. The tea party movement is a true grass root conservative movement. Which is in line with the majority of peoples values in the Nation.
    Do you realize how pissed people are outside of the beltway and "progressive land" about Obamas IRS scandal targeting tea party and conservative groups ?!
    There is gonna be another big shakeup. You wait and see sonny Jim.
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    11 Oct '13 02:00
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Not so. The tea party movement is a true grass root conservative movement. Which is in line with the majority of peoples values in the Nation.
    Do you realize how pissed people are outside of the beltway and "progressive land" about Obamas IRS scandal targeting tea party and conservative groups ?!
    There is gonna be another big shakeup. You wait and see sonny Jim.
    Is that why the Tea Party is at a 22% favorable rating?
  8. Hy-Brasil
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    11 Oct '13 02:021 edit
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Do you realize how absurd your extreme bias and lack of understanding?
    I realize I am conversing w/a patisan hack who on a daily basis post things here nearly verbatim the talking points on every radical progressive web site that he has read that day.
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    11 Oct '13 02:10
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Is that why the Tea Party is at a 22% favorable rating?
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The Gallup polling organization has demonstrated proven accurate results for decades. They have much credibility with experts and statisticians.


    Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.

    40% of Americans continuing to describe their views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal.

    You do the math moonbeam

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx
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    11 Oct '13 02:141 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The Gallup polling organization has demonstrated proven accurate results for decades. They have much credibility with experts and statisticians.


    [b]Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.


    40% of Americans continuing to describe their views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and ...[text shortened]... eam[/b]

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx[/b]
    The Gallup results are accurate but your inference = FAIL.

    Many conservatives do not support or even like the Tea Party.

    Again, the Tea Party at 22% favorable rating.

    For the GOP to survive, it will take moderate and rational conservatives to squash the Tea Party.
  11. Hy-Brasil
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    11 Oct '13 02:22
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The Gallup results are accurate but your inference = FAIL.

    Many conservatives do not support or even like the Tea Party.

    Again, the Tea Party at 22% favorable rating.

    For the GOP to survive, it will take moderate and rational conservatives to squash the Tea Party.
    Wrong again.
    Keep it up you are on a roll.
    The tea party movement is a breath of fresh air to the GOP. True conservatives. And they will revitalize the party.
    The RINO's are killing the party and resemble the Dems of the pre 90's. Spinless jelly fish.
    The Dems now have been high jacked by the far left extreme radicals, aka the "progressives".
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    11 Oct '13 03:39
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The Gallup results are accurate but your inference = FAIL.

    Many conservatives do not support or even like the Tea Party.

    Again, the Tea Party at 22% favorable rating.

    For the GOP to survive, it will take moderate and rational conservatives to squash the Tea Party.
    The Koch brothers are finally starting to realize that the tea-baggers they helped put in places of power over the last few years could actually wind up costing them a large chunk of their fortune.
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    11 Oct '13 03:45
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The President cannot change at his whim what are essential services in a government shutdown. The President does not have king-like powers to change the rules.

    If he did, why wouldn't he just fund the entire government? Why wouldn't he just raise the debt ceiling on his own?

    To provide military death benefits in a government shutdown, both houses of Congress must first pass a bill to do that, and the President signs it.
    This President on a whim change the healthcare law, pushing out the
    mandate for business, he changed how some in Gov would have to
    be a part of the healthcare act, he told his justice dept to not enforce
    some laws because he felt was the right thing to do. The only thing
    the Pres will not do is take care of everyone equally, he wants to pick
    winners and losers.
    Kelly
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    11 Oct '13 03:46
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Not the funding to keep those places open. That falls on Congress.
    Congress passed several ways to keep it open, but the Pres and Harry over in the Sen want nothing to do with it.
    Kelly
  15. Houston, Texas
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    11 Oct '13 04:55
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    This President on a whim change the healthcare law, pushing out the
    mandate for business, he changed how some in Gov would have to
    be a part of the healthcare act, he told his justice dept to not enforce
    some laws because he felt was the right thing to do. The only thing
    the Pres will not do is take care of everyone equally, he wants to pick
    winners and losers.
    Kelly
    The executive always tweak laws in their implementation.

    Again, you miss the point. The Tea Baggers are not trying to tweak implementation of the ACA. They are trying to kill it. To bypass the legislative democratic process to undo a law they do not have the votes to repeal.
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