@sonhouse saidCan you cite where they say or imply that they want 'total control'?
@AverageJoe1
You really think the Heritage foundation is simply conservative? They are just as conservative as HITLER, and I mean LITERALLY. They want TOTAL power over all of us in ways you can't even imagine right now since you WANT to be in the dark and then when it happens you would go 'why didn't I listen to SH" and did some work to stop those depraved assssholes.
@sonhouse saidYou dont see the big picture
@Wajoma
You godda be kidding, he already has been CONVICTED of at least THREE different fraud cases and you think he would never stoop to say bribery?
Spiro T Agnew did that literally in the WH when he was VP, getting literal cash in brown bags right in his office which is why he was told don't run and we won't put you in jail, which is what happened to him, great pair Nix ...[text shortened]... ntability, that is exactly what they want here and that is just the opening round of what they want.
@AverageJoe1 saidKeep your day job, you're not funny at all.
I have never heard of 2025, but in my 100% conservative mindset, I only had to see the opening page after googling 'what is 2025' and that was enough for me. I am not going to bother, conservative people do good things. Do you know that philanthrophy and charitable giving, which I do in retirement, are part of a conservative agenda>. Google that republilcans are more giv ...[text shortened]... t like it'
Hell, just ranting in the streets with people I don't know would be impossible.
Most people would just call it lying.
@AverageJoe1
Why don't you read the manifest or even just the analysis, if you don't I can only assume you fully agree with them and can't wait for the death of democracy here.
They will start with the death of Obamacare and throw some 40 million people out of insurance. That alone is enough to fight those bastards.
Then they want to eliminate the department of education, throw all educational decisions on each state and you can see how well that worked out after Roe V Wade was killed, like Texas now having a total abortion ban no exceptions where women who actually WANT their child to be born can die if not given medical treatment which has actually happened, and if the states decide to regulate education what is going on in Florida will happen in ALL red states, Don't you DARE talk about slavery, it makes whitey uncomfortable so ban any book even mentioning the subject of slavery.
And I suppose you fully support such an agenda but YOU will be losing freedoms along with the blacks whom you consider subhuman and you would be laughing your ass off if Obamacare was killed.
But that is just the beginning, the 2025 agenda is DEEPLY sinister and depraved and should worry even a stark conservative like yourself.
2025 goes WAY beyond ANYTHING a real conservative would do.
BTW, there is NOTHING wrong with conservatism but 2025 is a recipe for the end of democracy as we know it.
@sonhouse saidI dont refuse, Example, the Guardian yesterday. I am offended you sent me there. Are you a socialist, you did not answer. You never answer.
@AverageJoe1
If you refuse to go to links anything I say will fall on deaf ears.
@AverageJoe1
I sent about 3 separate links. Do you think the Guardian will put BS, like edit the manifesto?
You will apparently not go to ANY link I post.
@sonhouse said3 links. A socialist sends out 3 links, and expects a raving capitalist like me to pick through to find one 'I like'. You know, you fellers do that....cherry pick. I and other cons do not cherry pick. Marauder just did it. by refusing to say what he would do if a male with all his parts was entered against his daughter in a tennis or swim competition. You won't respond to that issue, either. At least you do not try the old 'title IX' gambit, wehat a bunch of crap. All I had to do was say back it all up to 1949....no title 9, but a lot of young americans looking to be successful.
@AverageJoe1
I sent about 3 separate links. Do you think the Guardian will put BS, like edit the manifesto?
You will apparently not go to ANY link I post.
You fellers have no touch. No touch. You are floaters. Your feet are not on the ground. I know, I hate it for youi.
@AverageJoe1
In other words, you don't WANT to know just how dangerous Project 2025 actually is, tell me, is it because you agree with all their agenda? Any link from Bratfart of Newsmax won't tell you a frigging THING about Project 2025.
Does that mean therefore 2025 must be just FINE?
@sonhouse saidSriously, I dont follow conspireqacy theories, that is all it is to me. Wolrld is full of rabble rounsers on both sides, I don't study them one bit. Sorry.. I guess I culd dig up some real crappy groups on our side, but....they are crappy, harmless.
@AverageJoe1
In other words, you don't WANT to know just how dangerous Project 2025 actually is, tell me, is it because you agree with all their agenda? Any link from Bratfart of Newsmax won't tell you a frigging THING about Project 2025.
Does that mean therefore 2025 must be just FINE?
@AverageJoe1
Just don't come crying to us when you find in fact our democracy is gone, it will be WAY too late.
@sonhouse saidI don't know if it is fine or not. I don't know if Proud Boys is fine. I don't care about the fringe groups. Or the Skin Heads.
@AverageJoe1
In other words, you don't WANT to know just how dangerous Project 2025 actually is, tell me, is it because you agree with all their agenda? Any link from Bratfart of Newsmax won't tell you a frigging THING about Project 2025.
Does that mean therefore 2025 must be just FINE?
Hey did you ever show where a pres has Total Immunity? Are you misleading us AGAIN!!
@AverageJoe1
As it stands right now, POTUS has immunity if the act in question can be called 'official duties' and that pretty much make POTUS immune whether you know or not or care or not.
Project 2025 is an extreme right wing white nationalist bunch as the manifesto of the Heritage foundation, active behind the scenes for half a century which is what led to Trump appointing 3 ultrarightwing judges to the supreme court and the end of Roe V Wade.
Those people are ONLY interested in power and WILL kill democracy itself if Trump gets in.
Trump is their puppet even if he himself doesn't know it.
My takeaway of your refusal to even look at the reviews of 2025 or read any page of the 900 page manifesto indicates pretty clearly to me you WANT the events to happen just like I said it will happen if Trump gets in power, suggesting to me you think the time of democracy is over in the US.
Go ahead, you can say it, we will at least understand your refusal to talk about 2025 in real terms.