Obama:  Take out people.   Trump, no can take out people?

Obama: Take out people. Trump, no can take out people?

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@sonhouse said
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As it stands right now, POTUS has immunity if the act in question can be called 'official duties' and that pretty much make POTUS immune whether you know or not or care or not.
Project 2025 is an extreme right wing white nationalist bunch as the manifesto of the Heritage foundation, active behind the scenes for half a century which is what led to Trump appoint ...[text shortened]... Go ahead, you can say it, we will at least understand your refusal to talk about 2025 in real terms.
You will refuse to talk about the Epoch Times and the National Review. How about the Washington Examiner. I subscribe to all of them. Where Can I pick up a copy of 'A day in the Life of Kamala"'?

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@AverageJoe1
I never heard of Epoch times, so give me a link to the piece they are reporting on 2025 project or heritage foundation.
So you have read SOMETHING about that bunch, still trying to tell people you know nothing but secretly approve of their entire agenda?

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@sonhouse said
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I never heard of Epoch times, so give me a link to the piece they are reporting on 2025 project or heritage foundation.
So you have read SOMETHING about that bunch, still trying to tell people you know nothing but secretly approve of their entire agenda?
No, where did you get that, I know nothing of 2025. I look at MSNBC whining on occasion for fun, and after that,could hardly read those publications

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@AverageJoe1
It DOES mean something when a far right bunch like Epoch times DOESN"T say a word about a world shaking landmark ruling. So where is their report?

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@sonhouse said
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It DOES mean something when a far right bunch like Epoch times DOESN"T say a word about a world shaking landmark ruling. So where is their report?
Ohhhhh, contrare, little buddy. Here is a link,......this is from my subscription to Epoch, page one, on the front page. Now you mahy find it two sided, a great publication. Not too expensive. Or, you can read about AOC. Oh boy.

"How the Supreme Court Decision on Presidential Immunity Could Impact Trump Cases"

Sorry, it would not let me send article, but ou see the headline.

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Here is. piece of it. The cover page is beautiful, well balanced. YOu will love it.


Both the district and circuit courts completely rejected assertions of presidential immunity, so there has been no briefing on whether actions in the indictment were official or unofficial.

“That categorization raises multiple unprecedented and momentous questions,” the opinion reads.

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When Judge Chutkan rejected the motion to dismiss based on presidential immunity last year, the appeals court fast-tracked the appeal, rejected the motion, and also fast-tracked the appeal process to the Supreme Court.

All case proceedings were paused in the meantime, and Judge Chutkan had taken the case—originally scheduled for March 4—off her calendar. At the time, the judge still had a number of motions to rule on, including a major ruling on what evidence and arguments could be used at trial.

Now Judge Chutkan will have to sort out what actions must be removed from the indictment before the case can continue. This may not necessarily be a quick process; as court filings by both parties have shown, the defense and prosecution have clashing theories as to whether certain acts were official or unofficial.

Prosecutors have acknowledged that some of the acts in the indictment were indeed the official acts of a president, and it has largely been expected that special counsel Jack Smith may trim down the indictment so as to proceed with the case with minimal holdup.
Supreme Court Sets Some Guidelines

The special counsel has charged former President Trump with four counts of conspiracy and obstruction for his actions to challenge the 2020 election results.
Crucially, the Supreme Court decision does not throw out any of these charges.

However, several actions involved in some of the charges may need to be tossed. The majority opinion finds that presiden

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@AverageJoe1
I read all that before. The real issue is what will Trump do with such power, he WILL go after political opponents by weaponizing DOJ which BTW, he already did last time he was POTUS, or did you forget about Bill Barr, his pet AG?
If he wins the Heritage foundations will work directly with him and you folks who say Trump won't accept their crap, THEY are full of crap, when offered the opportunity to make his own political power greater he will take it in a trice and not think twice about it.
They want to vastly increase the power of POTUS in the hopes they can kill democracy and make Trump literally a king and that is just the start of their sick agenda, like making abortion illegal in all 50 states, no exception, a woman has a non viable fetus, let the bitch die. They are Christian nationalists and you probably think oh, they are Christian what is so bad about that?
The bad part is they want to force Christianity to be the state religion, so much for separation of church and state, and only THEIR version of Christianity would be the state religion.
Your Epoch review had NOTHING about the 2025 agenda.
Your piece you posted was how the lower courts have to deal with the ruling granting near total immunity, not a word about just how fuukking BAD that ruling is for our country.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
I read all that before. The real issue is what will Trump do with such power, he WILL go after political opponents by weaponizing DOJ which BTW, he already did last time he was POTUS, or did you forget about Bill Barr, his pet AG?
If he wins the Heritage foundations will work directly with him and you folks who say Trump won't accept their crap, THEY are full ...[text shortened]... granting near total immunity, not a word about just how fuukking BAD that ruling is for our country.
No….No, the real issue is publications.

Whew.

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@AverageJoe1
What kind of answer is that? Publications have something to do with an agenda to kill democracy in the US, and don't give me your stock answer, define democracy, you know what I mean.
That and a hundred other sinister ideas in project 2025

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