Originally posted by shavixmirThe thing that totally sealed the deal for me was listening to one of the supposed terrorists who supposedly died in the attacks on the radio bemoaning the fact that everyone thinks he died flying a plane into the World trade center! He wasn't even in the US and this interview was on the BBC!! Has the record been straightened? Of course not, the moment you admit to a blatant lie, all the other BLATANT LIES suddenly make sense.
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[i]Amsterdam (The Netherlands), Apr.16 : A fake jury that exonerated Osama bin Laden from the Sept. 11 terror attacks on America following a televised mock trial on a popular Dutch program has sent out a "disturbing" message to the world and could fuel conspiracy theories, ...[text shortened]... s and murder thousands of women and children.
I know who I'd find guilty.
Originally posted by MarinkatombGotta be true if you saw it on TV
The thing that totally sealed the deal for me was listening to one of the supposed terrorists who supposedly died in the attacks on the radio bemoaning the fact that everyone thinks he died flying a plane into the World trade center! He wasn't even in the US and this interview was on the BBC!! Has the record been straightened? Of course not, the moment you admit to a blatant lie, all the other BLATANT LIES suddenly make sense.
Originally posted by shavixmirAre you freaking nuts? Next you will be saying 911 was some kind of Reichstag event. Regardless of the statistics of terrorism prior to 911 we can rest assured that the actions of Uncle Sam were totaly justified even if a few inocents were killed. You have to play hard ball and never give in to terrorism.
http://story.michigansun.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/154063713fe5da1f/id/490383/cs/1/
[i]Amsterdam (The Netherlands), Apr.16 : A fake jury that exonerated Osama bin Laden from the Sept. 11 terror attacks on America following a televised mock trial on a popular Dutch program has sent out a "disturbing" message to the world and could fuel conspiracy theories, ...[text shortened]... s and murder thousands of women and children.
I know who I'd find guilty.
Originally posted by ChessJesterDon't forget the moon landings were faked too.
I watched the new video from Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth and it convinced me beyond a reasonable doubt that there were explosives used to take down the towers.
There MUST be a new investigation!
Originally posted by ChessJesterAssuming you're serious, just watch this bloodbath, er, I mean, debate.
I watched the new video from Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth and it convinced me beyond a reasonable doubt that there were explosives used to take down the towers.
There MUST be a new investigation!
If that debate (all 5 parts) is not enough to take the heart out of the movement, then nothing is.
Originally posted by sh76Short summary : LooseChange guys make a claim, they get a rebuttal, instead of answering to that, they just make a new claim.
Assuming you're serious, just watch this bloodbath, er, I mean, debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M
If that debate (all 5 parts) is not enough to take the heart out of the movement, then nothing is.
Originally posted by shavixmirCthulhu, obviously.
I know who I'd find guilty.
"Achieving success is far easier than most humans believe. For example, why did we, the priests of the Elder Gods of this galaxy, succeed where the avatars of the Ancient Old Ones from beyond the stars failed? The answer is absurdly simple: Vast armies of horrifying monsters."
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Originally posted by BartsTo me, it looked something like this:
Short summary : LooseChange guys make a claim, they get a rebuttal, instead of answering to that, they just make a new claim.
Loose change guys make a claim
Pop Mechanics guys explain calmly why the claim has no basis
Loose Change guys grunt and frown and call the Pop Mechanics guys names
Pop Mechanics guys suggest holes in the Loose change investigations and theories.
Loose Change guys scowl and call the Pop Mechanics guys government shills and yellow journalists.
Loose change guys make a claim that someone saw something suspicious.
Pop Mechanics guys say "Well, the statements of 17 other people and that same guy later on suggest you're taking him out of context and giving undue weight to initial, confused reactions to traumatic events."
Loose Change guys scowl and frown and call the Pop Mechanics guys more names
My favorite was the cell phone issue. Paraphrasing:
LC Guy: How could there have been cell phone calls from Flight 93; cell phone don't work on planes; in fact, 3 years later, they started building mechanisms to help cell phones work in the sky; obviously those calls had to come from the ground.
PM Guy: Some cell calls do work from planes; the problem was that many such calls get dropped; and in fact many of the calls from Flt 93 did get dropped; roughly the number you'd expect based on the technology that existed in 2001.
LC Guy: in 2001???
PM Guy: Yes, in 2001
LC: <scowl> <frown> <tsk>
The cell phone discussion is at the end of the first part. It's pretty funny watching these kids get completely taken to school like that.
Originally posted by sh76It is too bad that they didn't do a little test on the cell phone issue. They could have gone up 30000 feet and tried it and made a video of the test. I agree with them that the phones will work up there, but had they taken one of the loose change guys up and had them call their mom on a cell phone, it wouldn't have been he said she said argument.
To me, it looked something like this:
Loose change guys make a claim
Pop Mechanics guys explain calmly why the claim has no basis
Loose Change guys grunt and frown and call the Pop Mechanics guys names
Pop Mechanics guys suggest holes in the Loose change investigations and theories.
Loose Change guys scowl and call the Pop Mechanics guys governme ...[text shortened]... irst part. It's pretty funny watching these kids get completely taken to school like that.
Originally posted by joe beyserIt would be a bit over budget for the debate though.
It is too bad that they didn't do a little test on the cell phone issue. They could have gone up 30000 feet and tried it and made a video of the test. I agree with them that the phones will work up there, but had they taken one of the loose change guys up and had them call their mom on a cell phone, it wouldn't have been he said she said argument.
Their argument would be "Not in 2001 though!" so then they'd have to break out the time machine.
Originally posted by PsychoPawnI spose you are right on that. They would come back with an argument that the cell towers are better now than in 2001.
It would be a bit over budget for the debate though.
Their argument would be "Not in 2001 though!" so then they'd have to break out the time machine.