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  1. 23 Aug '13 08:01 / 1 edit
    The two girls arrested in Peru for smuggling drugs
    are described by the British media as Northern Irish
    and Scottish.

    This because they have transgressed.

    But if they had won gold medals in the Olympics
    or achieved good status in another way, then they
    would be described as British.

    I am sick and tired of the British propaganda machine where
    they claim people as British if they do well and if they do badly
    then they are described as Welsh or Irish or Scottish.

    Britain cannot have it both ways.

    They now claim Andy Murray as British because to them he is a hero.
    The first British man to win Wimbledon since Fred Perry.

    But when he was losing they described him always as Scottish.

    Britain tried to claim U2 as a British band. They are not. They are Irish.

    They tried to claim Ronnie Delaney as British when he is in fact Irish.

    Below is a link to what I mean.

    See how the British try to claim Colin Farrell as British when he is in fact Irish


    http://www.worldirish.com/story/21013-claiming-the-irish-the-top-5-irishbritish-identity-controversies
  2. 23 Aug '13 11:43 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    The two girls arrested in Peru for smuggling drugs
    are described by the British media as Northern Irish
    and Scottish.

    This because they have transgressed.

    But if they had won gold medals in the Olympics
    or achieved good status in another way, then they
    would be described as British.

    I am sick and tired of the British propaganda machine w ...[text shortened]... /www.worldirish.com/story/21013-claiming-the-irish-the-top-5-irishbritish-identity-controversies
    didnt see you lot complaining when we give you big jack and a bunch of english (a couple of scots and a welshman) players for the 1990 + 1994 world cups. that didnt stop you dancing in the streets when you beat romania on pens did it? how many irish players were in the 1990 squad???
  3. 23 Aug '13 14:06
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    didnt see you lot complaining when we give you big jack and a bunch of english (a couple of scots and a welshman) players for the 1990 + 1994 world cups. that didnt stop you dancing in the streets when you beat romania on pens did it? how many irish players were in the 1990 squad???
    Jack Charlton came here of his own free will.
    No one put a gun to his head.
    The players declared themselves as Irish.
    They could have sought more glory by
    declaring for England but they didn't.
    They came and declared and played for Ireland
    because of family connections.


    You didn't seem to mind when Sven Goran Ericsson was England's manager.
    He is from Sweden after all.

    I remember watching Chelsea play football when
    Dennis Wise was the only Englishman in that team.

    In our domestic league we have Irish players.

    How many English players have you in your domestic league?????????????
  4. 23 Aug '13 14:17
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    Jack Charlton came here of his own free will.
    No one put a gun to his head.
    The players declared themselves as Irish.
    They could have sought more glory by
    declaring for England but they didn't.
    They came and declared and played for Ireland
    because of family connections.


    You didn't seem to mind when Sven Goran Ericsson was England's man ...[text shortened]... have Irish players.

    How many English players have you in your domestic league?????????????
    whats the relevance of sven and foreign premier league players????? your not making sense.
  5. 23 Aug '13 17:45 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    The two girls arrested in Peru for smuggling drugs
    are described by the British media as Northern Irish
    and Scottish.

    This because they have transgressed.

    But if they had won gold medals in the Olympics
    or achieved good status in another way, then they
    would be described as British.

    I am sick and tired of the British propaganda machine w ...[text shortened]... /www.worldirish.com/story/21013-claiming-the-irish-the-top-5-irishbritish-identity-controversies
    Counterexample:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/peru-arrests-british-drug-mules-2203109

    By Nigel Atkins

    " Peru arrests: British drug mules' tears in court as they face up to THREE YEARS in jail awaiting trial "
  6. 23 Aug '13 18:13
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    But when he was losing they described him always as Scottish.
    There was an early scare for the Briton....


    Report on Andy Murrays semi-final defeat in 2011
  7. 23 Aug '13 18:15
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    There was an early scare for the Briton....


    Report on Andy Murrays semi-final defeat in 2011
    So the run of successive defeats by British men in the last four reached 11


    And another.
  8. 23 Aug '13 18:19
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    So the run of successive defeats by British men in the last four reached 11


    And another.
    But British players have now lost 10 semi-finals...


    One from 2010 defeat in semi finals.
  9. 23 Aug '13 20:04
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody

    How many English players have you in your domestic league?????????????
    Why could you possibly care about how many foreign players there are in a football league?
  10. 23 Aug '13 22:05
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Why could you possibly care about how many foreign players there are in a football league?
    I don't care. It was him that brought that up not me.


    I am on about the British trying to claim successful Irish people as British.
    They do it all the time. Colin Farrell, Brendan Gleeson, U2,
    to name just a few.
  11. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    23 Aug '13 23:01
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    I am sick and tired of the British propaganda machine where
    they claim people as British if they do well and if they do badly
    then they are described as Welsh or Irish or Scottish.
    A tad sensitive?
    What is this "British propaganda machine" what are its goals? Winding
    up the Scots, Irish and Welsh? To what end?
  12. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    23 Aug '13 23:02
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    Britain cannot have it both ways.

    But according to you they do!
    Make your mind up.
  13. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    23 Aug '13 23:02
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    http://www.worldirish.com/story/21013-claiming-the-irish-the-top-5-irishbritish-identity-controversies
    Are you sure this site is impartial?
  14. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    24 Aug '13 17:40 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    A tad sensitive?
    What is this "British propaganda machine" what are its goals? Winding
    up the Scots, Irish and Welsh? To what end?
    Glorifying the English dominated UK at the expense of the Celtic peoples to maintain the current unequal power relationship.
  15. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    25 Aug '13 21:00 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Glorifying the English dominated UK at the expense of the Celtic peoples to maintain the current unequal power relationship.
    Unequal?
    In 2010 the Welsh were represented in Westminster with a seat per 76,000
    the Scottish had a seat per 89,000 while England and Northern Ireland were
    under represented; needing 100,000 per seat.

    On top of that Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have their
    own assemblies which England does not. Hardly English domination!

    And what about the Cornish and Manx? I suppose they are oppressed too?