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Patriotism vs. nationalism

Patriotism vs. nationalism

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How do we tell the difference?

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@vivify

You and your kind have neither.

The libs here have neither.

Patriotism is standing with your country through thick and thin even if you disagree with some things.

Nationalism is like Poland keeping the demographics and culture the same and you're not a pansy who is worried about being called a racist.

Just my opinion.

I'm definitely a Nationalist and starting to come around with Canada because they do have some very good qualities even though they are erasing their culture and becoming a melting pot of culturless poverty.


@vivify said
How do we tell the difference?
I think ..

- Jews are both
- Canada is an example of patriotic but not nationalistic
- Germany is an example of nationalistic but not patriotic.


@Rajk999 said
I think ..

- Jews are both
- Canada is an example of patriotic but not nationalistic
- Germany is an example of nationalistic but not patriotic.
Okay the first two were right but Germany is willfully letting themselves be subjugated.

They are nowhere near Nationalism.


@vivify

You should edit the thread title and use an upper case N 😉


@PuzZuLz said
@vivify

You should edit the thread title and use an upper case N 😉
Yeah .. that kind of thing annoys me as well.


@PuzZuLz said
Okay the first two were right but Germany is willfully letting themselves be subjugated.

They are nowhere near Nationalism.
For real. In the last decade or so they got soft with illegal immigration.


@PuzZuLz said
@vivify

You and your kind have neither.

The libs here have neither.

Patriotism is standing with your country through thick and thin even if you disagree with some things.

Nationalism is like Poland keeping the demographics and culture the same and you're not a pansy who is worried about being called a racist.

Just my opinion.

I'm definitely a Nationalist and ...[text shortened]... alities even though they are erasing their culture and becoming a melting pot of culturless poverty.
That’s a pretty good definition. Nationalism has ethnic implications.


@PuzZuLz said
@vivify

You and your kind have neither.

The libs here have neither.

Patriotism is standing with your country through thick and thin even if you disagree with some things.

Nationalism is like Poland keeping the demographics and culture the same and you're not a pansy who is worried about being called a racist.

Just my opinion.

I'm definitely a Nationalist and ...[text shortened]... alities even though they are erasing their culture and becoming a melting pot of culturless poverty.
Take your Nationalist Anglo self back to Angeln.


Fox News refers to people they approve of as "patriots". But after reading the responses, it seems conservatives view nationalism as a virtue and also as a form of patriotism.

Patriotism and nationalism are the same thing, as far as conservatives are concerned.


@vivify said
Fox News refers to people they approve of as "patriots". But after reading the responses, it seems conservatives view nationalism as a virtue and also as a form of patriotism.

Patriotism and nationalism are the same thing, as far as conservatives are concerned.
Hard not to be when everyone who is anti American is also anti white.


@vivify said
How do we tell the difference?
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" (Samuel Johnson)

"Nationalism is the first refuge of a racist/bigot" (no1).


@vivify said
How do we tell the difference?
No difference.
It’s the same thing, just positively or negatively identified.


@shavixmir said
No difference.
It’s the same thing, just positively or negatively identified.
Not quite. In the early 20th century many patriotic German Jews found themselves targets of nationalistic German Nordics.

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@vivify said
Fox News refers to people they approve of as "patriots". But after reading the responses, it seems conservatives view nationalism as a virtue and also as a form of patriotism.

Patriotism and nationalism are the same thing, as far as conservatives are concerned.
That’s because conservatives consider this to be a WASP country.

Ask them about American culture and you’ll hear “English language, Christianity (but not Catholics), roots in Plymouth Rock from Anglo Protestant fanatics (no indigenous or Spanish or French or Black aspect recognized at all)” etc

Then they’ll say everyone else came because they wanted to be just like the Anglos who were so amazingly awesome.

This narrative flies in the face of real history but since when has that stopped these people?