Originally posted by Metal BrainThen you are making your assertions that he has "no right" to do this, and "no right" to do that on account of his nationality, right? But all he has been doing, as far as I am aware, is contributing to a debate. I am just trying to get you to be specific about on what it is you base your [apparent] assertion that his nationality means he has "no right" to express the views he does and to do so while physically in the U.S.
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Originally posted by FMFHe obviously has the legal right, just not a moral right. He left his country by free will. If he likes the laws in the UK better he should go back and enjoy those laws.
Then you are making your assertions that he has "no right" to do this, and "no right" to do that on account of his nationality, right? But all he has been doing, as far as I am aware, is contributing to a debate. I am just trying to get you to be specific about on what it is you base your [apparent] assertion that his nationality means he has "no right" to express the views he does and to do so while physically in the U.S.
Originally posted by FMFThat is not true. Morgan asked Alex Jones how many people were killed by guns in the UK. He is clearly interjecting UK gun laws into the debate.
But the topic of debate he is participating in is the gun laws in the U.S. and not the gun laws in the U.K.
Originally posted by Metal BrainYes but the topic of debate he is participating in is the gun laws in the U.S. There is no ongoing debate in the U.K. regarding changes to the law there.
That is not true. Morgan asked Alex Jones how many people were killed by guns in the UK. He is clearly interjecting UK gun laws into the debate.
Originally posted by FMFNo. If there is a debate, it is about how best to reduce the number of gun murders down from 35 (or 60 depending on which statistics you use).
There is no ongoing debate in the U.K. regarding changes to the law there.
We are not convinced that allowing people to own an automatic weapon will achieve this. Or reduce crime overall.
And we don't feel this makes us more susceptible to tyranny.
Originally posted by FMFMorgan had a variety of progun people on his show. Each took Piers apart in his own way. Larry Pratt was soft spoken and gentle, and Piers acted almost like Alex Jones. Then he had Ted Nugent on, and Ted cut him a new one. Jesse Ventura really made Morgan look stupid, and did so with great flair. Joshua Boston quietly, and politely made Morgan look the fool.
Petition starter or no petition starter, I doubt Piers Morgan would have bothered to have him on his show if he wasn't pretty sure he'd behave like that. It was incredibly inept advocacy.
You gotta be who you are, 'cause Piers will be who he is.
Originally posted by smw6869He might be niave on the love of guns in the usa but i wouldn't call him dumb ,
FACT:The name Piers is of Greek and English origin meaning dumb as a rock or stone. Just saying.
GRANNY.
the only dumb ones are the ones running around with guns ,
You ,(US) are not the land of free you are slaves to your secound amendment forever to hold the tigers tail .
Originally posted by phil3000Nooooooo! Piers is dumb as the rock his parants named him after!
He might be niave on the love of guns in the usa but i wouldn't call him dumb ,
the only dumb ones are the ones running around with guns ,
You ,(US) are not the land of free you are slaves to your secound amendment forever to hold the tigers tail .
GRANNY.
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Originally posted by moon1969Can I suggest you post this as separate thread? I would be interested to see if anyone would try and defend this and I would certainly like to know more.
What about the Republican forced sonograms.
I would post it, but I think it would be helpful to have some of the background context in the OP and you are better placed to do this than me.