@moonbus said“Critical thinking”. You use this term to make it appear there can be other ways.
Indoctrinating young people starts by keeping them ignorant and unacquainted with critical thinking. Banning books one doesn't agree with is calculated to keep young people ignorant and easy to manipulate.
There are not any other ways. Man/woman…that’s it. These TWO are the only reason human exist. No other form continues human existence.
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidWhat is needful is academic freedom to teach young people to think critically about controversial issues, social norms, mental constructs, or anything else for that matter.
what is the need to teach about homosexuality in a college setting?
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidWhy should human existence continue? Ever think about that?
“Critical thinking”. You use this term to make it appear there can be other ways.
There are not any other ways. Man/woman…that’s it. These TWO are the only reason human exist. No other form continues human existence.
What Einstein passed on, he did not pass on through his genes. Ever think about that?
What Martin Luther passed on, he did not pass on through his genes. Ever think about that?
What Martin Luther King Jr. passed on, he did not pass on through his genes. Ever think about that?
What Plato and Aristotle passed on, they did not pass on through their genes. Ever think about that?
What Jesus gave to humanity, he did not give through reproducing himself. Ever think about that?
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidWe're still doing it, of course, we just don't think of it as a sacrifice. And that is the tragedy--we're crippling their minds, by banning books in the public schools and defunding research (in Trump's Amerikkka anyway).
You don't think there were ancient civilizations that mutilated or even sacrificed their children?
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidYes, there is another kind of thinking: there is stupidity, believing something just because a demagogue says it over and over, without fact-checking, without evaluating logical flaws, without weighing evidence. A society which actively hinders young people from learning the basics of critical thinking, for example by banning books, sacrifices its future.
“Critical thinking”. You use this term to make it appear there can be other ways.
There are not any other ways. Man/woman…that’s it. These TWO are the only reason human exist. No other form continues human existence.
One thing is certain: once those philosophy students find out the govt. does not want them to read Plato, they are sure as hell gonna read Plato !
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidWhen you write and say something is easily provable, obvious, baseline humanity, then why would you need to ban Plato? It seems like this is not something that government needs to involve itself in. Big brother telling us what we can't read in school?
What’s with the double posting under different userids?
Yes ban ALL this BS the indoctrinates young people.
You fuked your life up, leave theirs alone.
If Plato is wrong then just say that. No need for government to force it's way into your syllabus.
@moonbus saidWTH are you talking about?
Why should human existence continue? Ever think about that?
What Einstein passed on, he did not pass on through his genes. Ever think about that?
What Martin Luther passed on, he did not pass on through his genes. Ever think about that?
What Martin Luther King Jr. passed on, he did not pass on through his genes. Ever think about that?
What Plato and Aristotle pass ...[text shortened]...
What Jesus gave to humanity, he did not give through reproducing himself. Ever think about that?
no one brought up lineage...you bring it up trying to have a point...its called a strawman argument
@moonbus saidI KNOW only a man and woman can reproduce...you might want to rethink just who is stupid
Yes, there is another kind of thinking: there is stupidity, believing something just because a demagogue says it over and over, without fact-checking, without evaluating logical flaws, without weighing evidence. A society which actively hinders young people from learning the basics of critical thinking, for example by banning books, sacrifices its future.
One thing is cert ...[text shortened]... udents find out the govt. does not want them to read Plato, they are sure as hell gonna read Plato !
@wildgrass saidWhat’s with the double posting under different userids?
When you write and say something is easily provable, obvious, baseline humanity, then why would you need to ban Plato? It seems like this is not something that government needs to involve itself in. Big brother telling us what we can't read in school?
If Plato is wrong then just say that. No need for government to force it's way into your syllabus.
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidI think maybe moonbus posted to you the same question I also asked and that this thread was about. You didn't answer it.
What’s with the double posting under different userids?
Two genders great, but why ban Plato?
Teachers should present content to students that provoke thought and would be good for discussion. Teachers should not present content to students because the government told them to.
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@wildgrass saidhow would knowing about plato benefit someone if employment?
I think maybe moonbus posted to you the same question I also asked and that this thread was about. You didn't answer it.
Two genders great, but why ban Plato?
Teachers should present content to students that provoke thought and would be good for discussion. Teachers should not present content to students because the government told them to.
isnt that what colleges are for?
two IDENTICAL posts btw word for word...strange
@Mott-The-Hoople saidI don't teach philosophy and neither do you. But you seem way too comfortable with the idea of government-led indoctrination programs to counteract the perception of societal indoctrination.
how would knowing about plato benefit someone if employment?
isnt that what colleges are for?
two IDENTICAL posts btw word for word...strange
@wildgrass said“The paradox of education is precisely this - that as one begins to become conscious one begins to examine the society in which he is being educated. ”
I don't teach philosophy and neither do you. But you seem way too comfortable with the idea of government-led indoctrination programs to counteract the perception of societal indoctrination.
― James Baldwin
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidNothing strange about it at all--I agree with Pondy's comment, 100%. Why ban Plato? How does banning books improve society?
how would knowing about plato benefit someone if employment?
isnt that what colleges are for?
two IDENTICAL posts btw word for word...strange