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Plato -- sorry, much too radical.

Plato -- sorry, much too radical.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
You went on to defend homos stating as long as they don’t harm…(paraphrase) we’ll dumbass it was just explained to you how it harms children being taught in schools.
The existence of homosexuality per se has no influence upon that which is taught in schools.

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@mike69 said
How much of this kind of stuff like men can be women, child mutulation, and on was going on before the wonderful, ‘look at us’ lgbtq woke movement?
Hmmmmm, 'woke' was normal.

Who knew?

We knew.

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@mike69 said
Never said it did, and in comparison to the number of people who don’t and never have recognized this makes your point as solid as saying a man is a woman if he believes it and thinks their in the wrong body?
Stupid is as stupid does.

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@mike69 said
It’s an evolution, symptom of this woke virus and will keep eating away until everyone hates everyone.
You have a giant start on the rest of us.

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@mike69 said
In comparison to the number of people who don’t and never have recognized this makes your point as solid as saying a man is a woman if he believes it and thinks their in the wrong body?
So you want everyone who knows better to just accept your ignorance?


@Suzianne said
Stupid is as stupid does.
Indeed, Suzianne, I'm drowning in a sea of the stuff here, kept afloat by the life - jacket of clear thought and lack of prejudice....It's good to hear a friendly voice.

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@moonbus said
Trump is a marionette. There are others in the background, the Project-2025 people, and Vance is the pony they plan to ride to power. I'm not usually given to conspiracy theories, but the Project 2025 people have made no secret of what they want to do; it's been on their web site for some time.

I wonder how many here, apart from myself and Ghost, have actually read ...[text shortened]... about young adults, college students, mostly 18-21 yr. olds, eager to learn how to use their minds.
Ground control to @moonbus . . .

As ponies go, Vance has quite a round head. Some of the young guys online have already been commenting on his pudginess.

[ . . . ]

However, it does seem practical to indoctrinate relatively ignorant young people (some of whom reportedly cannot even read!) just before the very first election in which they get to vote, even if it's just the midterms.

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@Indonesia-Phil said
Your post was not just about homosexuality though, was it. Why did you feel the need to introduce other unrelated subjects, such as men in women's sport? (Which I am also against, by the way )

I don't know what 'little power' you think they have; if you mean the power to avoid the bigoted, archaic and frankly ignorant attitudes which have often and still prevail ...[text shortened]... g labelled 'freaks', or 'perverts' or all of the other nasty little descriptive terms that are used.
These are your words below. I was telling you some of the things I consider harmful. Do you agree these things are harming others and they are forcing these things on people who don’t agree. The rest of your post is bs.

Not everyone believes as you believe, that's just the way the world is; people are as they are, and if it does no harm to anyone then there's no harm to it.


@moonbus said
Texas A&M bans Plato.

quote:

Martin Peterson, a philosophy professor at Texas A&M University, was told this week by university administrators that he either would need to drop a discussion of race and gender issues and the writings by Plato on those topics from his introductory philosophy course or teach a different course.

The mandate comes as part of a review of co ...[text shortened]... d mention that the history of critical thinking in Western civilisation basically starts with Plato.
Here's an excellent article on the subject. I guess Thomas Jefferson hated Plato, but even he would be appalled to read the decision by Texas A&M to ban Plato's teachings on their campus.

It’s highly unlikely that the Texas A&M regents read Plato before drafting their policy. If they had, they would have discovered that, far from “advocating gender ideology,” he challenges all of our 21st-century ways of thinking about sex and gender. He is neither “left” nor “right,” because he lived thousands of years before those labels were invented. That is one of the reasons studying Greek philosophy has never become obsolete: In every generation, it allows people to escape the binaries of their own time and think things through from the beginning.

The belief that every student is capable of this kind of thinking, and deserves to experience it, was one of the noblest ideals of democratic education. Now that both democracy and education are under threat in the United States, philosophers may have to relearn the “prudence” that once seemed like a relic of history. Peterson is already employing a classic technique of esoteric writing: calling attention to what he is forced to omit. In his revised syllabus, when the students were originally supposed to read Plato, they will now be assigned a New York Times article about why they can’t.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/01/texas-censorship-plato-philosophy-sexuality/685597/


@Suzianne said
You have a giant start on the rest of us.
The One behind the scenes has had even more of a head start, by some accounts.


@AverageJoe1 said
I had no idea. Thanks, Moonbus. We should pattern our lives after your ‘other societies.’ But what if the ‘other society’ promotes men becoming women? Tell us, oh guru, how do we realign our way of life to fit in with those societies? And if we get socially involved ( I made that up!) , when will we have time to get rich and wealthy and healthy and great again?!?!?
You have needed to re-evaluate your priorities for quite some time now.


@YEAH-BOY said
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Easy, they know not what they do.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
Nah…just showing what you missed out on…and at 65 it wont be long till you learn what abomination means
You live it everyday and still don't know.


@Suzianne said
So you want everyone who knows better to just accept your ignorance?
You want to debate on just spew stupid sht?

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@moonbus said
Texas A&M bans Plato.

quote:

Martin Peterson, a philosophy professor at Texas A&M University, was told this week by university administrators that he either would need to drop a discussion of race and gender issues and the writings by Plato on those topics from his introductory philosophy course or teach a different course.

The mandate comes as part of a review of co ...[text shortened]... d mention that the history of critical thinking in Western civilisation basically starts with Plato.
I have never read The Republic, and therefore I'd like to weigh in anyway. [joke]

Hmm, hmm, I wonder how many people are scanning through The Republic now. πŸ˜‰

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