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@eladar said
I did not claim that these were new deaths, just that they were deaths attributed to corona virus.

Where do you see that I claim these are additional deaths?
Okay so I misread the statement. I admit that.


I found one source:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-coronavirus-deaths-surge-new-york-city-allows-cremations-24-hours-a-day-11585929876

which claims that crematories in New York process about three times the bodies tehy do under normal circumstances.

this is of course only local, but it gives an indication that at least some of the death are additional.

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@ponderable said
I found one source:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-coronavirus-deaths-surge-new-york-city-allows-cremations-24-hours-a-day-11585929876

which claims that crematories in New York process about three times the bodies tehy do under normal circumstances.

this is of course only local, but it gives an indication that at least some of the death are additional.
Additional to normal, sure.

Additional to if we hadn't destroyed society? Really? You can prove that?

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@ponderable said
I found one source:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-coronavirus-deaths-surge-new-york-city-allows-cremations-24-hours-a-day-11585929876

which claims that crematories in New York process about three times the bodies tehy do under normal circumstances.

this is of course only local, but it gives an indication that at least some of the death are additional.
New York is not the entire nation.

Any actual numbers for the nation?

How many deaths are due to suicide, heart attack and alcohol?

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So in other words what I said is correct.

Sweden did not shut down and their results are not out of line with the rest of the world.



@Duchess64

And D has proven to be such a reliable source of truthful data.

Nobody cares about your worthless opinions.

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According to China very few people died there, do you believe those numbers? Worldometer numbets are not to be trusted.

In any case, what percent of the Swedish populatiin has died due to covid according to worldometer?


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@eladar said
US population 328 million

Deaths each day 8000

Total US deaths this year 944000

That means that Coronavirus represents less than 5 percent of all deaths, yet everyone is acting like this is the end of the world.

Reality check, people die. Reality check, this thing is not killing many people when compared to typical death rates.
According to the Office of National Statistics in the week ending 10th April 33% of all registered deaths in England and Wales were due to covid-19. You seem to think that in the US covid represents 5% of all deaths. Are you including fatalities that occurred before the epidemic started in the US?

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@ponderable said
I found one source:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-coronavirus-deaths-surge-new-york-city-allows-cremations-24-hours-a-day-11585929876

which claims that crematories in New York process about three times the bodies tehy do under normal circumstances.

this is of course only local, but it gives an indication that at least some of the death are additional.
That is a fair way to look at it.

But now, to be fair for all of America, please understand that New York's deaths per million is over 800, versus the rest of America's 64.

Try doing the math to speak of America's other 49

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@deepthought said
According to the Office of National Statistics in the week ending 10th April 33% of all registered deaths in England and Wales were due to covid-19. You seem to think that in the US covid represents 5% of all deaths. Are you including fatalities that occurred before the epidemic started in the US?
Yes the US is not nearly as urbanized as the UK.

If you take out the worst 5 states, what would be the US deaths per million?


Answer 62


@deepthought said
According to the Office of National Statistics in the week ending 10th April 33% of all registered deaths in England and Wales were due to covid-19. You seem to think that in the US covid represents 5% of all deaths. Are you including fatalities that occurred before the epidemic started in the US?
Yes he is.

I'll find the link, but in the last month in the US deaths from COVID are at or above the monthly average for deaths from heart disease or cancer in the US. That would make it our #1 killer. And unlike those conditions, it is an infectious disease spread by contact.

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