@phranny saidEye of the beholder.
I suggest conservatives in this forum read the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America. It clearly states that the government should "promote the general Welfare... to ourselves and our Posterity." Liberals want a fair playing ground not rule by the rich who become powerful by buying legislation that allows their corporations and the very wealthy to avoi ...[text shortened]... elves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Secure the "blessings of liberty" could just as easily be interpreted as protection against over-regulation and wealth redistribution.
The first half of your paragraph is filled with truisms that are open to broad interpretation when it comes to policy implementation. The second part is fine, but has nothing to do with policy.
The preamble is a wonderful and poetic document, but is a looking glass in terms of policy. You can simply interpret everything to fit your ideology. No political ideology has a monopoly on the Constitution.
@vivify said'HILLARY CLINTON CALLS TRUMP AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT'. There are many many sites, you can begin your google with that one. You fellers are really entertaining. Or, like one certain poster here, you can change the wording around......Bill Clinton even gave them different meanings. (hillary's husband). Or you can continue to parse, as you above, by highlighting her concesion. So what....She still thinks he is illegitimate, to use her words.
Wrong. Hillary conceded the same night of election.
Trump fought the election results until days before his term ended; and he only conceded then due to backlash for inciting a riot on the Capitol.
This is what I'm talking about when I refer to uninformed conservatives.
You fellers are really entertaining.. It is like you say things and then look for a place to hide!!!
@sh76 saidThanks, SHJ....no one listens to me!! 😢
Eye of the beholder.
Secure the "blessings of liberty" could just as easily be interpreted as protection against over-regulation and wealth redistribution.
The first half of your paragraph is filled with truisms that are open to broad interpretation when it comes to policy implementation. The second part is fine, but has nothing to do with policy.
The preamble is a wond ...[text shortened]... interpret everything to fit your ideology. No political ideology has a monopoly on the Constitution.
Note that I myself interpret "Promote" broadly, while libs profess to know EXACTL:Y what it means. Whew.
@vivify saidTrump is still denying he lost. Dems never suggested Hilary's loss was due to voter fraud. Many Liberals do not like the electoral college and want a straight vote, in which case Clinton would have won. Liberals tend to be better educated and less likely to believe in BS.
Wrong. Hillary conceded the same night of election.
Trump fought the election results until days before his term ended; and he only conceded then due to backlash for inciting a riot on the Capitol.
This is what I'm talking about when I refer to uninformed conservatives.
Liberals believe in worker's right to a living wage, health care and an education. When disaster hits, they need FEMA, unemployment insurance, disability, etc. We should have mandatory paid parental leave when a baby is born. Liberals DO NOT believe in dividing up the entire wealth of our nation equally between all citizens. Liberals DO NOT support open borders. Liberals do not support your right to run around unvaccinated and unmasked putting the rest of us at risk of a deadly disease.
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@averagejoe1 saidShe said that *three years* after the election.
'HILLARY CLINTON CALLS TRUMP AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT'. There are many many sites, you can begin your google with that one. You fellers are really entertaining. Or, like one certain poster here, you can change the wording around......Bill Clinton even gave them different meanings. (hillary's husband). Or you can continue to parse, as you above, by highlighting her ...[text shortened]... fellers are really entertaining.. It is like you say things and then look for a place to hide!!!
Hillary made that statement the same year the Mueller investigation concluded that member's of Trump's camp gladly accepted assistance from Russia to get elected, which is a crime. FBI evidence of this was already established when Hillary said that.
You keep proving what I say about uninformed conservatives.
@averagejoe1 saidYeah; after I posted I saw you'd said something kinda similar.
Thanks, SHJ....no one listens to me!! 😢
'Course, if you want people to listen to you, you might avoid passages like "Give me a break. You suggest that we are not Patriots? Jesus. Wasted typing Phranny."
Just my $0.02 😉
@phranny saidThey may not have blamed Hillary's loss on "voter fraud" but many of them sure blamed it on "voter suppression," and add to Hillary the losses of Kerry and Gore as well, along with scores of Congressman, Senators and Governors.
Trump is still denying he lost. Dems never suggested Hilary's loss was due to voter fraud. Many Liberals do not like the electoral college and want a straight vote, in which case Clinton would have won. Liberals tend to be better educated and less likely to believe in BS.
Liberals believe in worker's right to a living wage, health care and an education. When disaster hits, t ...[text shortened]... ur right to run around unvaccinated and unmasked putting the rest of us at risk of a deadly disease.
But, of course, it's 100% true that every Presidential candidate until Trump conceded gracefully once it was over and Trump ushered in an era of lawlessness with his hysterical inability to accept the fact that he lost.
@phranny saidI believe far too little attention has been paid to "insure domestic Tranquility" and Donald Trump's active role in undermining it, throughout his presidency, not only on January 6th.
I suggest conservatives in this forum read the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America. It clearly states that the government should "promote the general Welfare... to ourselves and our Posterity." Liberals want a fair playing ground not rule by the rich who become powerful by buying legislation that allows their corporations and the very wealthy to avoi ...[text shortened]... elves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
@averagejoe1 saidI answered you, moron.
So, not ONE answer on this??? This is quite telling, given that nether lib votes for Biden!!!! Laugh Out Loud. Telling indeed. 🤔
Especially since there is only one obvious answer.
@sh76 saidthe recent audits disagree with you
They may not have blamed Hillary's loss on "voter fraud" but many of them sure blamed it on "voter suppression," and add to Hillary the losses of Kerry and Gore as well, along with scores of Congressman, Senators and Governors.
But, of course, it's 100% true that every Presidential candidate until Trump conceded gracefully once it was over and Trump ushered in an era of lawlessness with his hysterical inability to accept the fact that he lost.
@phranny saidYou fellers sure can expound on the most simple of points. What in the WORLD are you talking about, I've forgotten the issue. I think both Trump and Hillary could not accept th loss. Y'all want to to talk it up until your fingers turn blue. You want to talk about Jan 6 hearings, which is simply a diversion from the real problems which you hide from the voters. Tiresome stuff.
Trump is still denying he lost. Dems never suggested Hilary's loss was due to voter fraud. Many Liberals do not like the electoral college and want a straight vote, in which case Clinton would have won. Liberals tend to be better educated and less likely to believe in BS.
Liberals believe in worker's right to a living wage, health care and an education. When disaster hits, t ...[text shortened]... ur right to run around unvaccinated and unmasked putting the rest of us at risk of a deadly disease.
@phranny saidOnly Bernie believes that citizens have a right to living wage, health care and an education. (Assume you mean college?) They don’t. From whence does this right come?
Trump is still denying he lost. Dems never suggested Hilary's loss was due to voter fraud. Many Liberals do not like the electoral college and want a straight vote, in which case Clinton would have won. Liberals tend to be better educated and less likely to believe in BS.
Liberals believe in worker's right to a living wage, health care and an education. When disaster hits, t ...[text shortened]... ur right to run around unvaccinated and unmasked putting the rest of us at risk of a deadly disease.
All liberals do not believe in dividing up the wealth. But the Marxists do, and leaders like ElizWarren do. They may not prevail, but lord you fellers sure have us wasting our time fighting off these hyenas.
@suzianne saidNo, you wrote “The only one left after I kill the other” you did not vote for Biden, you did not vote for Trump. Setting aside Biden’s questionable state of mind, which do you think could gather the crowd and fire them up to roll up sleeves and build? Who has that wherewithal? Who has employed thousands and run things?
I answered you, moron.
Who would you vote for? If you say Biden, you are disingenuous in my opinion. Remember, lives at stake on a desolate island.