@Mott-The-Hoople saidNever. It would irritate me immensely to say something I knew was untrue.
you lie
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/blinken-warns-israel-hamas-best-last-chance-end-gaza-war-2024-08-19/
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidI quote Scripture for my own purpose. LOL!
Probably best to steer clear of biblical guidance, riddled as it is with contradictions. (Ezekiel 18:19-23 for example being contradicted by the entire human race apparently paying for the sins of Adam).
@spruce112358 saidI nudge you instead sir in the direction of Shakespeare.
I quote Scripture for my own purpose. LOL!
@spruce112358 saidThat itself is a lie. Remember this?
Never. It would irritate me immensely to say something I knew was untrue.
There was never such a thing as a Palestinian State / Country.
Lets start there. Do you agree?
If not please state the year it was formed and who it was that STOLE the land from them and committed this alleged THEFT.
@spruce112358 saidDoes that not sound like deception = a form of lying
I quote Scripture for my own purpose. LOL!
@Rajk999 saidIt's certainly no lie that people have been trying to "define away" Palestinian rights for decades.
That itself is a lie. Remember this?
There was never such a thing as a Palestinian State / Country.
Lets start there. Do you agree?
If not please state the year it was formed and who it was that STOLE the land from them and committed this alleged THEFT.
Remember this old chestnut? Even trying to "define away" their existence. Very bad stuff.
"There was no such thing as Palestinians" is part of a widely repeated statement by Golda Meir, the then Israeli Prime Minister, in her second month in office, made in an interview with Frank Giles, then deputy editor of The Sunday Times on June 15, 1969, to mark the second anniversary of the Six-Day War.
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@spruce112358 saidYou are a master of deflection. Here is the issue again:
It's certainly no lie that people have been trying to "define away" Palestinian rights for decades.
Remember this old chestnut? Even trying to "define away" their existence. Very bad stuff.
"There was no such thing as Palestinians" is part of a widely repeated statement by Golda Meir, the then Israeli Prime Minister, in her second month in office, made in an interv ...[text shortened]... puty editor of The Sunday Times on June 15, 1969, to mark the second anniversary of the Six-Day War.
Was there ever a country or state called Palestine owned by Arabs?
If so, when was it established?
Apparently someone stole their country.
What year did this happen?
Here is the Jewish side:
Jews lived in Palestine about 900 years before Christ.
They were removed by the Romans in about 70 AD.
Palestine became a Roman colony at that time.
The Greeks, Asyrians, etc etc and last the British took control of Palestine.
Finally in 1948, with the approval of the British, Israel became a state in Palestine
Whats the story with Arabs in Palestine?
@Rajk999 saidPalestinians were ethnically cleansed. They had their land stolen, and they were forced to move away. So in that sense, yes, they had their country stolen. But I was referring to their actual houses and farms being stolen. Their property where they lived.
You are a master of deflection. Here is the issue again:
Was there ever a country or state called Palestine owned by Arabs?
If so, when was it established?
Apparently someone stole their country.
What year did this happen?
Here is the Jewish side:
Jews lived in Palestine about 900 years before Christ.
They were removed by the Romans in about 70 AD. ...[text shortened]... l of the British, Israel became a state in Palestine
Whats the story with Arabs in Palestine?
@spruce112358 saidAre you sure you are speaking the truth?
Palestinians were ethnically cleansed. They had their land stolen, and they were forced to move away. So in that sense, yes, they had their country stolen. But I was referring to their actual houses and farms being stolen. Their property where they lived.
How does someone steal land, houses and farms?
Sounds like you are not telling the whole story.
@Rajk999 saidPretty sure, yeah.
Are you sure you are speaking the truth?
How does someone steal land, houses and farms?
Sounds like you are not telling the whole story.
The UN Position:
"The Nakba, which means “catastrophe” in Arabic, refers to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. Before the Nakba, Palestine was a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society. However, the conflict between Arabs and Jews intensified in the 1930s with the increase of Jewish immigration, driven by persecution in Europe, and with the Zionist movement aiming to establish a Jewish state in Palestine.
In November 1947, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution partitioning Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab, with Jerusalem under a UN administration. The Arab world rejected the plan, arguing that it was unfair and violated the UN Charter. Jewish militias launched attacks against Palestinian villages, forcing thousands to flee. The situation escalated into a full-blown war in 1948, with the end of the British Mandate and the departure of British forces, the declaration of independence of the State of Israel and the entry of neighbouring Arab armies. The newly established Israeli forces launched a major offensive. The result of the war was the permanent displacement of more than half of the Palestinian population.
As early as December 1948, the UN General Assembly called for refugee return, property restitution and compensation (resolution 194 (II)). However, 75 years later, despite countless UN resolutions, the rights of the Palestinians continue to be denied."
https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/
"...the permanent displacement of more than half of the Palestinian population." is what I mean when I say, the Palestinians had their property (and their country) stolen.
This is what the United Nations says happened.
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@Rajk999 said
You are a master of deflection. Here is the issue again:
Was there ever a country or state called Palestine owned by Arabs?
If so, when was it established?
Apparently someone stole their country.
What year did this happen?
Here is the Jewish side:
Jews lived in Palestine about 900 years before Christ.
They were removed by the Romans in about 70 AD. ...[text shortened]... l of the British, Israel became a state in Palestine
Whats the story with Arabs in Palestine?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_the_Levant
The Muslim conquest of the Levant, or Arab conquest of Syria,[1] was a 634–638 CE invasion of Byzantine Syria by the Rashidun Caliphate. A part of the wider Arab-Byzantine Wars, the Levant was brought under Arab Muslim rule and developed into the provincial region of Bilad al-Sham. Clashes between the Arabs and Byzantines on the southern Levantine borders of the Byzantine Empire had occurred during the lifetime of Muhammad, with the Battle of MuÊ¿tah in 629 CE. However, the actual conquest did not begin until 634, two years after Muhammad's death. It was led by the first two Rashidun caliphs who succeeded Muhammad: Abu Bakr and Umar ibn al-Khattab. During this time, Khalid ibn al-Walid was the most important leader of the Rashidun army.
@AThousandYoung said"Was there ever a country or state called Palestine owned by Arabs?"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_the_Levant
The Muslim conquest of the Levant, or Arab conquest of Syria,[1] was a 634–638 CE invasion of Byzantine Syria by the Rashidun Caliphate. A part of the wider Arab-Byzantine Wars, the Levant was brought under Arab Muslim rule and developed into the provincial region of Bilad al-Sham. Clashes between th ...[text shortened]... b. During this time, Khalid ibn al-Walid was the most important leader of the Rashidun army.
@spruce112358 saidHave you no shame. Liars just cannot see when they are lying.
Pretty sure, yeah.
The UN Position:
"The Nakba, which means “catastrophe” in Arabic, refers to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. Before the Nakba, Palestine was a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society. However, the conflict between Arabs and Jews intensified in the 1930s with the increase of Jewish immigrati ...[text shortened]... ans had their property (and their country) stolen.
This is what the United Nations says happened.
Your story and the UN story are different. It says nothing about any land being stolen.
Go try to find your conscience. Apparently it is lost.