@sonhouse saidWell, wait just a minute. I asked you how someone that is a dependent would have the same qualifications that I have to be a dependent or an independent. How can we both be a dependent or both be an independent …..one of us, myself or the illegal alien, who depends on services, , is considered dependent, and logically , one of us does NOT depend. That would be ME, you silly goose.
I see you have no answer to my charge about the Trump stolen TS and above TS docs stored in an unsecured location.
I ask again, which is the dependent? Remember, I pay taxes, and he does not.
Answer?
@Zahlanzi saidSomeone grade Zahlanzi a D- for pointing out that when an illegal trespassing invading illegal quasi-human buys a soda, he pays 6cent tax.
all illegals pay some taxes while being unable to benefit from most programs. they are a net positive on your economy, something that the republicans smarter than you already know they just need someone to point the blame at, else people might realize the reason they are doing poorly is not the pennyless immigrants but the billionaires who exploit them
If it weren't for dumb republicans, smart republicans wouldn't get elected.
What a post. Changes everything. Or what….,🤔
@wildgrass saidDEI and Woke don’t work. What do y’all do that works, that evolves from independence? Libs pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, they depend, they are mobs, Gimmee Gimmee.
The committee names were changed where I work from DEI to Belonging.
The problem with most DEI initiatives is that they have not worked. Millions poured into salary and time spent trying to make faculty more diverse at Columbia and there was no change.
Meanwhile they could have just used the money to hire diverse faculty.
Break free.
@AverageJoe1 saidHuh?
DEI and Woke don’t work. What do y’all do that works, that evolves from independence? Libs pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, they depend, they are mobs, Gimmee Gimmee.
Break free.
@AverageJoe1 saidThere is not one societal thing that libs discuss that does not relate to other people . Or to the government(s).
DEI and Woke don’t work. What do y’all do that works, that evolves from independence? Libs pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, they depend, they are mobs, Gimmee Gimmee.
Break free.
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@AverageJoe1 saidI already answered that, NOBODY is really independent. If you go out into the bush and live on the land, you still need some kind of weapon and a way to build a cabin or shelter so you need to know how to knap rocks and know the right kind of rocks to knap into tools. How many people have that skill that was abundant 50,000 years ago?
Tick Tock, Tick Tock……await the answer…..
You want a rifle maybe to kill game? What about bullets? You gonna have a few thousand of those on hand just coincidentally?
There is no going around it, your independence is a dream.
But you still didn't answer my post about the stolen TS docs Trump held in the fuuking unsecured basement and you seem to be totally ok with that, like our national security is a joke.
@AverageJoe1 saidFuuking BORE us? So you figure it is in the past, no big deal? It IS a big deal and WILL be a big deal.
My answer is that I cannot BELEEEEIIIIIVVVE you still want to bore us all with this. Carry on.
Hey, talk about the nasty Biden FBI agent and her nose ring, a NOSE ring, who said it was not a terrorist attack, when an ISIS flag was in his truck. I am so sick of all your dunces and sleaze in your FBI. Trump will clean house. You all will love him!
Sonhouse, wh ...[text shortened]... the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/fbi-alethea-duncan-nose-ring-new-orleans-b2673015.html
What the FUUK is wrong with you? Tell me, do you think national security is a joke?
You hear what happened to the Rosenburgs who gave atomic secrets to the USSR?
Was THAT a JOKE?
You consider it a joke spies know all about those docs and there have been a couple KNOWN attempts to get in and they will till there are no docs left and there ARE docs left because Trump will NEVER tell where they ALL are.
You don't care names could be on those docs that if seen by an adversary they could be killed, a mole, our spy and whatnot.
THAT IS A JOKE?
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@AverageJoe1 saidYou are living in la la land if you think you are really independent.
Yes, because I have prepared for a life of Not being dependent (like having number of children I can afford), include having an insurance policy for such matters as you suggest.
There has to be a link on that Somewhere?
I must say I find your post to be not well thought out. Certainly you cannot wake up every day banking on (what Marauder calls) a security net? From someone else or some entity? Like the govt.? Constitution says nothing about sending lifeboats.
Sure you have money enough, whoopie.
Money won't help if you are inside your house when a tornado hits. You could be ripped to shreds and carried a mile away by such an event.
NOBODY is independent. Look at the grocery shelves during the Covid crisis.
What you gonna do about food in a real emergency? Sure, I bet you have a ton of survival food already stocked in your bomb shelter but that will run out and then what?
I'll TELL you what you are going to do, you are GOING to ask for help from whatever authorities are available.
THAT IS NOT INDEPENDENCE and you should know that full well.
The independence of dinosaurs kind of ended when that asteroid hit in Cancun.
So much for THEIR independence.
The entire human race and most life forms on Earth are dependent on a steady supply of rain and heat. What will you do if say a big interstellar cloud cuts off light from the sun? Just a near impossible situation but ALL life on earth is TOTALLY dependent on the sun.
And there is NOTHING you can do if that impossible scenario happened.
Just saying there is no such thing as total independence.
@sonhouse saidDo you not realize that people are getting bored with the Trump history problems?
I already answered that, NOBODY is really independent. If you go out into the bush and live on the land, you still need some kind of weapon and a way to build a cabin or shelter so you need to know how to knap rocks and know the right kind of rocks to knap into tools. How many people have that skill that was abundant 50,000 years ago?
You want a rifle maybe to kill game? W ...[text shortened]... ng unsecured basement and you seem to be totally ok with that, like our national security is a joke.
You seem to omit one seminal about the independence matter. If I work hard and make $5000 which is enough money to live on on the island, I will take that money and buy things that I need with that money, like that rifle, you speak up. So I stand by my argument. However, if you want to take it to the nth degree as you are doing. Then yes, you are correct. I could not build a rifle. So yes, I am dependent upon someone else to build the rifle that I buy. But the difference, in all of this. is that I pay my way which makes me independent. If someone lets the government pay their student loan, they are dependent. If anyone on this forum has ever received a check from the government, they are dependent. I could go on and on, but I think I have made that clear. Again, if I am considered by you to be a dependent, what in the Hell Are the people that are real dependent. Are we all?
@sonhouse saidIf you want to write about national security being a joke, bring it up to present day if you don’t mind, and tell us about the FBI Keystone cops like the nose ring girl who said this was not a terrorist killing. Trump will hopefully fire all of these people, and I seriously hope he does,… If I have an employee that manages their work less than those FBI people did, I would fire that person in a heartbeat. But no one will fire these FBI people …. liberals will defend them. They are trash.
Fuuking BORE us? So you figure it is in the past, no big deal? It IS a big deal and WILL be a big deal.
What the FUUK is wrong with you? Tell me, do you think national security is a joke?
You hear what happened to the Rosenburgs who gave atomic secrets to the USSR?
Was THAT a JOKE?
You consider it a joke spies know all about those docs and there have been a couple KNOWN ...[text shortened]... that if seen by an adversary they could be killed, a mole, our spy and whatnot.
THAT IS A JOKE?
@sonhouse saidThen have money., and insurance, enough to cover these problems? Don’t have too many kids? You build a savings account don’t you say to handle such matters as they happen? It is almost like you’re saying someone needs to keep you from dying. When the tornado hit your house. Your insurance will get you a new house, but you have to man up and be somewhat independent as you weather the Storm. I can just see y’all running around in your yard saying help me help me help me.
You are living in la la land if you think you are really independent.
Sure you have money enough, whoopie.
Money won't help if you are inside your house when a tornado hits. You could be ripped to shreds and carried a mile away by such an event.
NOBODY is independent. Look at the grocery shelves during the Covid crisis.
What you gonna do about food in a real emergency? S ...[text shortened]... do if that impossible scenario happened.
Just saying there is no such thing as total independence.
Help yourselves. Geez. New Year’s resolution?
We are a bit far a field, are we not. Back to base, if in one person is an illegal immigrant, and I am not, being a citizen of the United States, which of us is dependent, and which of us is independent.?
Which one needs other people for exist….the alien, who cannot even speak English, or me?
Next subject…PLEASE…..
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@AverageJoe1 saidWhat the hell kind of word salad are you pushing here. You REFUUKINGFUSE to talk about the ACTUAL corruption of a president STEALING TS docs and he STILL has some and the FACT JACK he READ one of them, how close to a Russian Sub a US sub can get undetected, What the FUUK are you anyway, a goddam commie?
If you want to write about national security being a joke, bring it up to present day if you don’t mind, and tell us about the FBI Keystone cops like the nose ring girl who said this was not a terrorist killing. Trump will hopefully fire all of these people, and I seriously hope he does,… If I have an employee that manages their work less than those FBI people did, I woul ...[text shortened]... in a heartbeat. But no one will fire these FBI people …. liberals will defend them. They are trash.
People's lives are at stake in those docs, if names of moles or our spies got out they could be executed by Russia, China, Iran and the like. I guess that is what you want, a breach of our national security.
One thing abundantly clear is if that happened to ANY Democrat POTUS you would be screaming at the top of your lungs HANG THE SON OF A BITCH.
But NO, it is your fuuking GOD Trump who in your mind is literally above the law and ANYTHING he does is just fine with you.
But a DEM, you go for the throat for the EXACT same corruption.
I can tell you this: A LOT of people are NOT bored by this and they KNOW Trump is one corrupt son of a bitch who should have been in jail 10 years ago even before he was POTUS.
It is only you ultrarightwingnuts who think Trump can do any fuuking thing he wants and NOTHING is outside the law for your god Trump.
Lets fast forward 4 years.
Suppose all goes well, Trump decides NOT to become a dictator, and at the end of this lame duck term, he goes peacefully.
Can you tell me how many TS docs he will take with him then?
Or I guess for you no big deal if he does, right? Because national security is in fact a fuuuking JOKE to you and all your fuuking rightwingnut buddies.
Well some of us say ones who actually served in our military actually keep up with national security and it IS a big issue even if it is back burner BS for the likes of you.
You have crossed the line here and you should be fuuking ASHAMED of yourself for deriding the importance of our national security.
You begin to sound like Metal brain, a known Putin propagandist.
Is that you for real now? You can admit it, nobody will come after you and besides that is the kind of person your god Trump LOVES.
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@sonhouse saidRosenbergs? In 1923,,,,or was it 52? What about the Lindbergh kidnapping!.?!?! (or was that the same thing )…You ignore that. Then there was the Shirtwaist Fire, and also how Roosevelt was a bit slow on the uptick of Hitler on the world’s ass! And how some Presidents who stored documents in their homes, TWO of them! Almost sinking the USA! Or, The pres who defiled the Oval Office with a little girl. I want to discuss, we are so unrequited on that one.
Fuuking BORE us? So you figure it is in the past, no big deal? It IS a big deal and WILL be a big deal.
What the FUUK is wrong with you? Tell me, do you think national security is a joke?
You hear what happened to the Rosenburgs who gave atomic secrets to the USSR?
Was THAT a JOKE?
You consider it a joke spies know all about those docs and there have been a couple KNOWN ...[text shortened]... that if seen by an adversary they could be killed, a mole, our spy and whatnot.
THAT IS A JOKE?
Could you list, maybe 50, of such occurrences, while the rest of us are all accepting that no one is perfect, and that with all their foibles, we got through the Biden slime to get to The Real America.
Here is The Shirtwaist Fire. I am amazed that you have not mentioned it. We will instead check out Trump’s use of political capital in swaying the 3 House holdouts to vote HIS WAY so he can start getting things done. They must be loyalists! Your next flag can say Down With Loyalists!!,!
“The 1911 Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire was one of the worst U.S. industrial disasters, but we should consider it alongside another workplace catastrophe. On Sept. 3, 1991, a fire at the Imperial Foods chicken-processing plant in Hamlet, N.C., killed 25 workers and injured 56 who were trapped behind intentionally locked fire doors—an eerie echo of the conditions that led to 146 deaths in New York City in 1911. Most victims of the Hamlet Fire were women and many were African American. Most were single mothers, leaving over 50 children orphaned.”
Hey, this just in. Biden is doing what he should do about the steel. Excuse me, I didn’t mean Biden, I mean, whoever in the back room told him to say that. Or maybe it is not the right thing,?