Originally posted by AThousandYoungBiased in his favour?? Where did that come from??
[b]Stuck in a rut.
I could eat a horse.
Pi$$ing into the wind.
These are not phrases I would use in a debate situation precisely because they are imprecise and unclear...especially if I were quoting hard statistics involving numbers of people.
personally, I had no difficulty understanding deucer's post.
Because you're biased in his favor already.[/b]
I have no bone in ... sorry, I am not part of your underlying dispute and don't have any interest in the outcome - I am definitely not biased either which way.
I merely stepped in on the grammar issue.
Sometimes, sure, using idioms (or metaphors, similes or whatever) can throw up shades of grayness in terms of meaning, but used correctly, the meaning is unequivocal.
I can see you and I won't agree on this but would you agree that this sentence, 'Trying to make ATY see my point of view is like banging my head against a brick wall' is clear in its meaning?
Again, biased in deucer's favour?? I have no idea what you guys are debating - I just saw the grammar thing and made a comment on it. I'm not biased against/towards anyone.
(Well, I'm a little biased for Bosse ... due to guilt over my spectacular betrayal of him in Age of Conquest, I'm inclined to side with him on most issues... until his next victory, of course. :p)
Originally posted by treetalkI don't muchly care wevr ur knot sumwun likes my spelin, as long as dey unerstan my meanin'😉
Don't get too cocky - spelling and grammar-wise, your posts are pretty bad!
ps to both of you:
The english language is fluid and evolving; so are the means by which we communicate. Just take a look at what texters have done to it, to get my meaning.
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Originally posted by duecerSure. The descriptivist's approach. Strangely enough, I do know about that. You're not using that as an excuse to justify your continual errors (eg. you're and your), are you?
I don't muchly care wevr ur knot sumwun likes my spelin, as long as dey unerstan my meanin'😉
ps to both of you:
The english language is fluid and evolving; so are the means by which we communicate. Just take a look at what texters have done to it, to get my meaning.
Keep textspeak in cellphones, though. It personifies laziness and the dumbing down of, not just the language, but of people.
edit: The means by which we are communicating now is through a computer and keyboard - a medium through which taking shortcuts ala textspeak is not really pertinent, don't you think?
New Zealand 'educators' (actually, more the politician twats) - to our eternal shame - have been discussing allowing textspeak in high school exams. Books with cardboard pages and monosyllablic words as required reading will be next ...
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Originally posted by treetalkSorry, thought you were Bosse.
Biased in his favour?? Where did that come from??
I have no bone in ... sorry, I am not part of your underlying dispute and don't have any interest in the outcome - I am definitely not biased either which way.
I merely stepped in on the grammar issue.
Sometimes, sure, using idioms (or metaphors, similes or whatever) can throw up shades of graynes , I'm inclined to side with him on most issues... until his next victory, of course. :p)
So tell me; how do I check up on his claim about "millions who worked hard all their lives just to keep their heads above water"? What statistics or polls is he referring to? Where did that "millions" figure come from?
How do I know he's not just making stuff up? There's no way to check up on him because real statistical studies don't use imprecise idioms like "keep one's head above water."
Don't forget, nearly half of the "poor" in the US own a house!
Originally posted by treetalkMy errors are usually as a result of trying to type too fast, and then not checking my work. I rarely use text btw.
Sure. The descriptivist's approach. Strangely enough, I do know about that. You're not using that as an excuse to justify your continual errors (eg. you're and your), are you?
Keep textspeak in cellphones, though. It personifies laziness and the dumbing down of, not just the language, but of people.
edit: The means by which we are communicating now is ...[text shortened]... s. Books with cardboard pages and monosyllablic words as required reading will be next ...
Originally posted by treetalk'Trying to make ATY see my point of view is like banging my head against a brick wall' is clear in its meaning?
Biased in his favour?? Where did that come from??
I have no bone in ... sorry, I am not part of your underlying dispute and don't have any interest in the outcome - I am definitely not biased either which way.
I merely stepped in on the grammar issue.
Sometimes, sure, using idioms (or metaphors, similes or whatever) can throw up shades of graynes ...[text shortened]... , I'm inclined to side with him on most issues... until his next victory, of course. :p)
That makes sense. It's an expression of your feelings. It is NOT a statement asserting facts about "millions of people."
Deucer combined the two which is why there's a problem.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungLet's have a beer and talk about birds, instead. 🙂
[b] 'Trying to make ATY see my point of view is like banging my head against a brick wall' is clear in its meaning?
That makes sense. It's an expression of your feelings. It is NOT a statement asserting facts about "millions of people."
Deucer combined the two which is why there's a problem.[/b]
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI see your point - the only way would be to look at median and poverty levels of income the base line cost of living and extrapolate ... but you shouldn't have to be someone else's research monkey.
Sorry, thought you were Bosse.
So tell me; how do I check up on his claim about "millions who worked hard all their lives just to keep their heads above water"? What statistics or polls is he referring to? Where did that "millions" figure come from?
How do I know he's not just making stuff up? There's no way to check up on him because real stat ...[text shortened]... ead above water."
Don't forget, nearly half of the "poor" in the US own a house!
Having said that, I do think (without any statistical evidence :p) there are millions of families who do ... find it difficult to pay off all their bills and put aside any money. I'd base that on the numbers of people with no medical insurance, the national level of savings and the average credit debt.
I'll be completely honest with you, though, and say that I'm far too lazy to chase down numbers for you - I'm relying on dimly recalled news articles. 🙂
Originally posted by treetalkWe have English House Sparrows, hummingbirds (little fatties lately; probably pregnant), and then there are the ugly pigeons who eat the seeds the sparrows accidentally knock off the sparrow feeder.
Let's have a beer and talk about birds, instead. 🙂
Mockingbirds and crows struggle for dominance in the streets of LA. It's cool to see them fight.
Originally posted by AThousandYoung😀
We have English House Sparrows, hummingbirds (little fatties lately; probably pregnant), and then there are the ugly pigeons who eat the seeds the sparrows accidentally knock off the sparrow feeder.
Mockingbirds and crows struggle for dominance in the streets of LA. It's cool to see them fight.