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The end of the U.S. in NATO?

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@Earl-of-Trumps said
Trump did not appoint a CIA head the first time around, He did appoint a new head to the FBI,
Christopher Wray, who was clearly working to protect the democrats.

That's why *this* time around Trump appointed people right away to head both agencies,
much to the b'yotching of the smellocrats. "Kash Patel, he's not qualified"

Yes he is, because he is not corrupt and won't sell Trump down the river.
"Kash Patel, he's not qualified"

Yes he is, because he is not corrupt and won't sell Trump down the river."


Please, for the love of God, get serious.

Loyalty to him first, corrupt as him second. These are the ONLY qualifications for being an agency head under Donald Trump. In no way is experience in the agency you are heading have ANYthing to do with it. Look at Hegseth.


@AverageJoe1 said
I have checked on his policies. So far he says general things like lowering the high cost of living. Affordability. He says all these things, but never says how he will do it. It has possibly got to do with getting money from successful people, but we will say that for another discussion.
But what is that Trump needs to be accountable? Foreign affairs, and share his i ...[text shortened]... ng back in our minds that what he wants are dependent on other people providing things for free?!?!?
Healthcare should be a right in America.

Buckle up for this one, buttercup.

It should also be free at point of purchase.


@Earl-of-Trumps said
Trump did not appoint a CIA head the first time around, He did appoint a new head to the FBI,
Christopher Wray, who was clearly working to protect the democrats.

That's why *this* time around Trump appointed people right away to head both agencies,
much to the b'yotching of the smellocrats. "Kash Patel, he's not qualified"

Yes he is, because he is not corrupt and won't sell Trump down the river.
Yeah, scrubbing the Epstein Files of references to Trump and his billionaire pedo buddies seems to be Patel's chief qualfication to run the FBI. That, and charging Comey with spurious offenses, such as photographing sea shells.

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@Earl-of-Trumps said
Trump did not appoint a CIA head the first time around
Wrong.

Trump appointed 2 CIA directors prior the Helsinki Summit—where he sided with Putin over the US. Both of them accepted the CIA's conclusion of Russian meddling.

One of those CIA Directors, Mike Pompeo, said Russia “clearly meddled” in the 2016 election. Trump trusted him so much, even after that statement, that Trump later made Pompeo Secretary of State.

So what's your excuse for not trusting the CIA now?


@Suzianne said
Healthcare should be a right in America.

Buckle up for this one, buttercup.

It should also be free at point of purchase.
Can we have an adult conversation about this? Nothing personal, just looking at the facts. I might start by saying that the constitution makes no such reference as to healthcare being provided by the government to the citizens.
But my main point would be as follows May I Clarify what a ‘right’ means? I have a legal background, this is stuff of my studies, you see.

In political philosophy, rights are often split into ‘negative’ rights (freedom from interference, like free speech) and ‘positive’ rights (entitlements that require someone else to provide a service).
I can argue here , with Suzianne, that calling healthcare a right places an obligation on doctors, taxpayers, and the system to PROVIDE said healthcare, which raises questions about limits, costs, and who decides what’s included.

Everyone should be able to get care, but calling it a ‘right’ doesn’t solve the hard part, which is who pays for it, how it’s delivered, and what trade-offs we accept.

So can you zero in on the facts of paragraphs 3,4and5?
1. Diff in negative rights and positive rights
2. How some citizens show up for free healthcare and discover it is not free
3. Calling it a right, and leave hanging how it gets paid for. Be the person that breaks this Ice.

Suzianne, please.
Calling healthcare a ‘right’ sounds good, but it skips the hard part….rights don’t require someone else’s labor on demand. Healthcare does! Healthcare Does!!. So who’s paying, and who’s being required to provide it?”


@AverageJoe1
If someone else’s labor is required for someone to receive something, Healthcare or whatever, that concept is not a right.
Does any person have a right to someone else’s labor?


@Suzianne said
Wake up and smell the flowers.

Your idol Trump will screw your retirement far more than anyone else.
I don’t understand.


@vivify said
Wrong.

Trump appointed 2 CIA directors prior the Helsinki Summit—where he sided with Putin over the US. Both of them accepted the CIA's conclusion of Russian meddling.

One of those CIA Directors, Mike Pompeo, said Russia “clearly meddled” in the 2016 election. Trump trusted him so much, even after that statement, that Trump later made Pompeo Secretary of State.

So what's your excuse for not trusting the CIA now?
If Russia meddled that has NOTHING to do with Trump, as noted that Pompeo spoke out about meddling.


@Earl-of-Trumps said
If Russia meddled that has NOTHING to do with Trump, as noted that Pompeo spoke out about meddling.
Russia's meddling was clearly to Trump's benefit.

Means, motive and opportunity.


@AverageJoe1 said
I don’t understand.
You understand nothing, like most Trumpublicans.


@AverageJoe1 said
@AverageJoe1
If someone else’s labor is required for someone to receive something, Healthcare or whatever, that concept is not a right.
Does any person have a right to someone else’s labor?
Who labors to give you Healthcare?

Insurance CEOs?

Don't make me laugh.


@Earl-of-Trumps said
If Russia meddled that has NOTHING to do with Trump, as noted that Pompeo spoke out about meddling.
You're losing track of the conversation.

You tried to downplay Trump siding with Putin over the US. by saying you don't trust the CIA.
I then showed you Trump personally appointed people to lead the CIA and even those people agreed Russia meddled. Which means Trump sold out his own government to appease Putin on live TV.

Pulling out of NATO, the strongest alliance on earth, is just another move to put Russia's interests over the U.S.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Did you use the word influence in your post!????!?!?!!?!!?!?!?!?!?
Why do you not use it in the first sentence, and in the 2nd, both of which make it obvious, indeed, who it was that got the attention of these losers in NATO.
Trump. Riiiiiiiigggghht.
Do y'all still not get the picture? Catch the train. Every nation in the world defers to your presdident, who ...[text shortened]... Trump, I have gotten it all back since I got back in. NOW it will take off. Funhouse, your take???
It is AMAZING how you can sling words together and still mean absolutely NOTHING. There is a phrase for that. Word Salad, and you don't get thousand Island.

Iran THINGY? Like this is a couple of kids playing tittliewinks?


@Suzianne said
Who labors to give you Healthcare?

Insurance CEOs?

Don't make me laugh.
Does any person have a right to someone else else’s labor??

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@sonhouse said
It is AMAZING how you can sling words together and still mean absolutely NOTHING. There is a phrase for that. Word Salad, and you don't get thousand Island.

Iran THINGY? Like this is a couple of kids playing tittliewinks?
Oh easy sign house. This is a friendly forum, sometimes it is good to put a little humor into something that is serious to break a little bit of ice.
I guess I could say that horrible horrific thing that Iran is doing in their country.
The word conflict is a bit overused. Some people call it a war.

Maybe you can answer this question. Does any citizen have a right to the labor of another citizen?