@wajoma saidMandated out of life long careers?
"That is why there are no more restrictions in place now."
You, scum there are still people mandated out of life long careers in NZ and Aus, sacrifices on your control freak bonfire.
What the fukk are you garblng on about, you smelly little incel, you.
You’re just stringing words together hoping people think you’re on to something.
@shavixmir saidIt means ijit, that there are people who are mandated out of life long careers if they don't take the experimental seizure syrup, that is still a thing in NZ and Aus.
Mandated out of life long careers?
What the fukk are you garblng on about, you smelly little incel, you.
You’re just stringing words together hoping people think you’re on to something.
I'm loathe to explain it to you because I think you get off on the suffering of others.
@wajoma saidI can hardly think you’re using “mandate” correctly, for it doesn’t make sense in that sentence.
It means ijit, that there are people who are mandated out of life long careers if they don't take the experimental seizure syrup, that is still a thing in NZ and Aus.
I'm loathe to explain it to you because I think you get off on the suffering of others.
Neither, by the way, do any of the terns you use to describe the covid vaccine.
@shavixmir saidConfirmed: shag doody get's off on the suffering of others.
I can hardly think you’re using “mandate” correctly, for it doesn’t make sense in that sentence.
Neither, by the way, do any of the terns you use to describe the covid vaccine.
As reporters began asking questions, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre attempted to shut down the discussion.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chaos-breaks-out-when-reporter-asks-fauci-about-covid-origins
"You need to call people across the room! She has a valid question, she’s asked about the origin of COVID," a reporter from Africa Today shot back.
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@sh76 saidYou have already been proven right. Fauci admitted under oath that he didn't rely on any science and just followed China's lockdowns. Not that he hasn't lied under oath before. Is China really where he got the idea?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/26/health/rsv-immunity-gap
Nobody can really know for sure, but there's a growing consensus that RSV and flu-like illness in general are spiking much earlier than normal this year because we largely avoided those illnesses with covid restrictions in 2020 and 2021.
Now, I'm not saying that all restrictions were a bad idea, per se. What I am sayin ...[text shortened]... ets normalized by a very tough winter and hopefully by next year, the ILI season will be normalized.
https://rumble.com/v1x6wyq-fauci-forced-to-answer-covid-questions-by-judge.html
The idea of lockdowns predated China's lockdowns by a decade. Fact checkers like this one from politifact point out that it was not a plan, but presented four possible scenarios of how the world might evolve, including one in which an influenza pandemic led to widespread government restrictions.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/15/facebook-posts/2010-rockefeller-foundation-report-does-not-show-c/
The idea was brought up by the 2010 Rockefeller Foundation report though. The report did not call it lockdown. They called it lockstep. Terms aside, China didn't come up with the idea first. It is just an idea that appealed to authoritarian regimes that like to scare people into submission. Sadly, our government is one of those authoritarian regimes.
Here is a good question: Where did the Rockefeller Foundation get the idea from? It had to have originated somewhere. Was it them or somebody else? It sure the heck didn't come from the science.
@kewpie saidIt's still probably true that getting vaxxed and boosted is a good idea for most people, but the benefit strictly in terms of transmission is relatively small and is certainly fleeting (as in gone after a few months).
Australia said "no jab, no job" for health care workers. They're the folk caring for sick people with weakened immune systems.
Only someone as thick as Mr Experimental Seizure Syrup could see this as a bad law. It's as logical as "no pedophiles can hold jobs in child care".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/23/vaccinated-people-now-make-up-majority-covid-deaths/
Given the weak relationship between having gotten your first two shots a year and a half ago and your ability to transmit today, blanket vaccine employment mandates are hardly justified.
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@sh76 saidYou've started several threads on this topic over the year. I think many can agree with the points in the NYT article on the subject. The absence of in person learning was harmful for kids. Millions of kids.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/26/health/rsv-immunity-gap
Nobody can really know for sure, but there's a growing consensus that RSV and flu-like illness in general are spiking much earlier than normal this year because we largely avoided those illnesses with covid restrictions in 2020 and 2021.
Now, I'm not saying that all restrictions were a bad idea, per se. What I am sayin ...[text shortened]... ets normalized by a very tough winter and hopefully by next year, the ILI season will be normalized.
What all of your threads omit as key is the practical considerations that needed to be weighed by superintendants and local public health officials. Teachers with health concerns possibly leading to mass early retirements. Parents with concerns in both directions, for and against reopening. Parents demanding virtual options in case of a return to in person, which would require hiring a bunch of new teachers that didn't exist and couldn't be paid for. Unions threatening mass walkouts and requiring very quick turnarounds for negotiations.
How to efficiently navigate this complexity? Leadership. Leadership was completely on lunch break. Trump tweeted "OPEN THE SCHOOLS" in all caps and right wing media was off and running with "look here, he's using all caps. that must mean he is serious." But he gave no roadmap or guidelines for opening schools. His own administration ran the CDC. The CDC's own recommendations for the public health officials on the ground making these tough decisions were directly in conflict with the President.
There's lots of reports that came out saying that the Trump administration deliberately did as little as they possibly could. They didn't want to get blamed for closing schools, even though that was their recommendation. They didn't want to get blamed for COVID numbers and deaths. They made an entirely political calculation that left all the schools and health officials to make it up on the fly.
Our leader realized that his decision making, either way, would have negative consequences. So he made no decision at all.
The next time this happens? Hopefully we have a grown up at the helm.
@wildgrass saidFree market education solves every one of your 'concerns'.
You've started several threads on this topic over the year. I think many can agree with the points in the NYT article on the subject. The absence of in person learning was harmful for kids. Millions of kids.
What all of your threads omit as key is the practical considerations that needed to be weighed by superintendants and local public health officials. Teachers with he ...[text shortened]... he made no decision at all.
The next time this happens? Hopefully we have a grown up at the helm.
@kewpie saidThe level of BS is now there for everyone to see. The exaggerated claims of the severity of the wuflu, the distorted recording of wuflu deaths (i.e dying with CV not from CV) the gross exaggerations of the vax effectiveness and down playing of the vax harms including death, the long term harms still not known, the pointless masks, the damage of lock downs, the immeasurable toll on mental health whether you believed goobermint and got scared of the flu or whether the real fear of goobermints ability to sacrifice lives, destroy businesses, careers, dreams on a whim.
Australia said "no jab, no job" for health care workers. They're the folk caring for sick people with weakened immune systems.
Only someone as thick as Mr Experimental Seizure Syrup could see this as a bad law. It's as logical as "no pedophiles can hold jobs in child care".
I went the whole 3 years doing the opposite of what they ordered, never wore a mask, never took the seizure syrup, never social distanced, shook hands with strangers the way a man is supposed to shake hands, and ya know what? Nothing.
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@wildgrass saidMass teacher retirements didn't happen where they did re-open right away. That was never a real danger. Older teachers with lots of seniority rarely like to give up their cushy positions.
You've started several threads on this topic over the year. I think many can agree with the points in the NYT article on the subject. The absence of in person learning was harmful for kids. Millions of kids.
What all of your threads omit as key is the practical considerations that needed to be weighed by superintendants and local public health officials. Teachers with he ...[text shortened]... he made no decision at all.
The next time this happens? Hopefully we have a grown up at the helm.
As for "parents demanding virtual options in case of a return to in person," put a webcam in the classroom and simulcast it on zoom. That's what my son's school did in the Fall/Winter of 2020/21 when they were asking everyone who had a cough to stay home and when anyone exposed to covid was asked to stay home. One kid's parents were worried because the elderly grandmother lived with them and so he stayed home and on zoom until May. Not a BFD. The additional cost was almost nothing. A Chromebook and a Zoom room. Hardly a reason to keep the whole school closed.
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@sh76 saidSure but again overgeneralization from the point of view of decision makers. It's easy to say mass retirement didn't happen where they opened schools, but that decision to open or stay closed had a lot to do with who the teachers were, what their resources were, how crowded were their schools. Wrong decisions were made for sure, but again, the guidance they were getting from our own cdc didn't match with the administration running the cdc. If the goal from the trump admin. was to open schools, they needed to give some framework for administrators to work with. How not to be a leader.
Mass teacher retirements didn't happen where they did re-open right away. That was never a real danger. Older teachers with lots of seniority rarely like to give up their cushy positions.
As for "parents demanding virtual options in case of a return to in person," put a webcam in the classroom and simulcast it on zoom. That's what my son's school did in the Fall/Winter of 202 ...[text shortened]... t was almost nothing. A Chromebook and a Zoom room. Hardly a reason to keep the whole school closed.
@wildgrass saidOkay.
Sure but again overgeneralization from the point of view of decision makers. It's easy to say mass retirement didn't happen where they opened schools, but that decision to open or stay closed had a lot to do with who the teachers were, what their resources were, how crowded were their schools. Wrong decisions were made for sure, but again, the guidance they were getting fro ...[text shortened]... schools, they needed to give some framework for administrators to work with. How not to be a leader.
So I'm saying closing schools (and keeping them closed) is/was a bad idea.
You're saying it was partially Trump's fault.
Fine. Maybe. Whatever.
I also think part of the decision to keep schools closed in some places was informed by a desire to spite Trump (talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face).
We're not really arguing.
It's a cautionary tale for next time. Closing schools should be the last resort, not the first resort.