The Penny Manslaughter Trial

@no1marauder said
Just because right wingers like yourself rejoice every time a black man is killed doesn't make it justified under the law.

The case was rightfully prosecuted and it is up to the jury to decide.

the jury did decide.

I see the racial implications worked with you, as it will with all lefties…the whole reason for the prosecution

@no1marauder said
People who rely on articles or talking heads in the media for their facts get nowhere near enough information compared to a jury at a trial to criticize the latter.

The case is about excessive force, not about whether anyone should be "helped" or not. The law sets limits on the use of force.

Of course, and nice to see a poster recognize an issue at hand, but I have simply said, no matter what the outcome, that even if I were a boxer and karate expert,.there is no way that I would step to the aid of someone where I would be subject to being in any way found guilty of anything. Guess I would be a bystander, perhaps be careful to not lose my ipods.
The 'law' has made a big mistake. And further this clueless inadeqate judge has stepped out of his purview, I know that and am not even a trial lawyer. He will be in trouble on this one.
I can't believe you find the guy guilty of something, anything. Hunter a good guy, though?

@Mott-The-Hoople said
not on the jury any more than you are. I only asked you a question, your being afraid to answer is the answer.

I answered the question before it was asked:

no1: People who rely on articles or talking heads in the media for their facts get nowhere near enough information compared to a jury at a trial to criticize the latter.

@AverageJoe1 said
Of course, and nice to see a poster recognize an issue at hand, but I have simply said, no matter what the outcome, that even if I were a boxer and karate expert,.there is no way that I would step to the aid of someone where I would be subject to being in any way found guilty of anything. Guess I would be a bystander, perhaps be careful to not lose my ipods.
The 'law ...[text shortened]... one.
I can't believe you find the guy guilty of something, anything. Hunter a good guy, though?

I didn't say he was guilty or not guilty.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
the jury did decide.

I see the racial implications worked with you, as it will with all lefties…the whole reason for the prosecution

No, it hasn't.

They said they were deadlocked on the manslaughter charge, but the criminally negligent homicide charge is still before the jury.

Few right wingers would be crying about this trial IF Penny had killed a white man; trials involving whether excessive force was used are commonplace in the US.

@no1marauder said
FYI:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/06/daniel-penny-jordan-neely-subway-trial-verdict/76476419007/

Penny's extremely fortunate the jury couldn't agree on the manslaughter charge; he held Neely in a chokehold for almost 6 minutes and refused to let go even though another passenger told him so because Neely wasn't moving.

I read this as your making a prosecutor's argument.

@no1marauder said
No, it hasn't.

They said they were deadlocked on the manslaughter charge, but the criminally negligent homicide charge is still before the jury.

Few right wingers would be crying about this trial IF Penny had killed a white man; trials involving whether excessive force was used are commonplace in the US.

And, I read this as your making the prosecutor's argument.
Go ahead, serve the law, throw this punk in jail.

@AverageJoe1 said
I read this as your making a prosecutor's argument.

(Shrug) It's an undisputed fact according to the evidence presented at trial.

@no1marauder said
No, it hasn't.

They said they were deadlocked on the manslaughter charge, but the criminally negligent homicide charge is still before the jury.

Few right wingers would be crying about this trial IF Penny had killed a white man; trials involving whether excessive force was used are commonplace in the US.

wouldnt be a trial if it were a white man

@Mott-The-Hoople said
not on the jury any more than you are. I only asked you a question, your being afraid to answer is the answer.

At least one politician is standing up for the guy, wants to give him a medal for heroism:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/congressman-plans-daniel-penny-congressional-234838313.html

@Mott-The-Hoople said
wouldnt be a trial if it were a white man

I keep forgetting that right wingers are so deluded they think the US justice system is biased in favor of persons of color.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
At least one politician is standing up for the guy, wants to give him a medal for heroism:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/congressman-plans-daniel-penny-congressional-234838313.html

Three guys restrained Neely with Penny jumping him from behind and holding him in a chokehold for 6 minutes.

That's the right wing version of "heroism" these days?

@no1marauder said
Three guys restrained Neely with Penny jumping him from behind and holding him in a chokehold for 6 minutes.

That's the right wing version of "heroism" these days?

Penny restrained him and then the other three jumped in to help keep him subdued.
And the guy STILL was fighting and trying to escape..

@no1marauder said
I keep forgetting that right wingers are so deluded they think the US justice system is biased in favor of persons of color.

only liberal prosecuters…21 lib soros prosecuters got fored last election, bragg will probably be next…people get tired of violence being tolerated

@Mott-The-Hoople said
only liberal prosecuters…21 lib soros prosecuters got fored last election, bragg will probably be next…people get tired of violence being tolerated

Like choking someone to death?

The Medical Examiner said Neeley was choked to death and video showed that Penny held the chokehold for almost 6 minutes, including after Neeley was no longer resisting.

That's ample evidence to charge and a DA would have been derelict not to do so.