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  1. 24 Jan '17 12:45
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JbZZ6qzz_U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg9Tu79F4qE

    For the first time ever, a president asked his press secretary to lie. Not just any lying, lying Trump style. In case you didn't know, lying Trump style is when you know the truth, everyone knows the truth, there is photographic evidence supporting the truth, yet you state the complete opposite anyway. Before trump, this was known as being insane or tripping balls.

    People know the crowd at trumps inauguration was several times smaller than Obama's. His press secretary knows. Kellyann Conway knows it.

    Sean Spicer says at one point that nobody has any numbers on the crowd attending the inauguration and in the very next sentence he utters "this has been the largest attendance to an inauguration in history, period". If you are going to lie, at least put a minimal effort.

    Kellyann Conway: "You're calling it lying, I'm calling them alternative facts"
  2. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    24 Jan '17 13:25
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JbZZ6qzz_U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg9Tu79F4qE

    For the first time ever, a president asked his press secretary to lie. Not just any lying, lying Trump style. In case you didn't know, lying Trump style is when you know the truth, everyone knows the truth, there is photographic evidence supporting the truth, yet y ...[text shortened]... nimal effort.

    Kellyann Conway: "You're calling it lying, I'm calling them alternative facts"
    Seth Myers is your new source?

    Out-freaking-standing.
  3. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    24 Jan '17 13:45
    The sky is falling, the sky is falling, oh me, oh my.
    These trolls have been lied to 10 times a day for 8 years, and they were not "little" lies, they were whoppers! Now Trump made the mistake of over estimating a crowd, and WHAM! Gotcha!...... Unbelievable!
    They think this rates up there with "if you like your doctor you can keep him".
    You Libs are insane, why do I even bother ?
  4. 24 Jan '17 14:00
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Seth Myers is your new source?

    Out-freaking-standing.
    yes, it's not like he is commenting on a cnn interview Chuck Schumer did on Kellyann Conway. Not like Sean spicer openly lying in his press conference is openly available on the internet, not like all media commented on this fact already.

    I linked to Seth Myers because he is funny. First youtube, which you ignored, is from Morning Joe and directly shows Chuck Todd in the first seconds making a fool out of Conway (better said, she did that herself). Yet you didn't mention that.

    No, a ludicrous event just happened, something perplexing. A president's press secretary just went on record to knowingly lie by supporting the president's delusion (or maybe outright lie) and on a trivial subject. This event was covered by numerous media agencies, numerous talk show hosts, among which, some that use humor to convey facts and you, like a dumbass, think that harping on the fact that one of them is Seth Myers (who presents news in a humorous manner, not lies in any way) invalidates the countless others who are "serious" news and did cover this. Forget the news, that it invalidates the photos taken from the air that obviously show Trump's crowd was significantly smaller than Obama's.
  5. 24 Jan '17 14:11
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    The sky is falling, the sky is falling, oh me, oh my.
    These trolls have been lied to 10 times a day for 8 years, and they were not "little" lies, they were whoppers! Now Trump made the mistake of over estimating a crowd, and WHAM! Gotcha!...... Unbelievable!
    They think this rates up there with "if you like your doctor you can keep him".
    You Libs are insane, why do I even bother ?
    right now, sweetheart, that is not in question.

    right now, a press secretary to a president lied to the american public, on the very first day of taking office, ignoring clear evidence to the contrary, on a matter that is entirely without importance, except to caress Trump's ego. There was no political gain to be made for this lie, everyone can clearly see it's a lie and they did it anyway just because Trump is a scared little manchild who has to be the best at anything.

    If they are willing to lie to you on this thoroughly unimportant issue, what do you think they will do, you colossal imbecile, when there is something important at stake? Do you think they will tell the truth when it comes to the non-existent healthcare plan they say will replace ACA? How about on matters of foreign policy? Human rights? Equality?
  6. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    24 Jan '17 14:37
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    The sky is falling, the sky is falling, oh me, oh my.
    These trolls have been lied to 10 times a day for 8 years, and they were not "little" lies, they were whoppers! Now Trump made the mistake of over estimating a crowd, and WHAM! Gotcha!...... Unbelievable!
    They think this rates up there with "if you like your doctor you can keep him".
    You Libs are insane, why do I even bother ?
    Yes! Exactly! Don't bother. F-off and bother someone somewhere else.
  7. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    24 Jan '17 16:34
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JbZZ6qzz_U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg9Tu79F4qE

    For the first time ever, a president asked his press secretary to lie. Not just any lying, lying Trump style. In case you didn't know, lying Trump style is when you know the truth, everyone knows the truth, there is photographic evidence supporting the truth, yet y ...[text shortened]... nimal effort.

    Kellyann Conway: "You're calling it lying, I'm calling them alternative facts"
    BOTH sides need to stop hissing at each other over crowd size. It's so childish.
  8. Standard member HandyAndy
    Non sum qualis eram
    24 Jan '17 16:43
    In Trumpworld, all that really matters is ratings.
  9. 24 Jan '17 17:04
    Originally posted by mchill
    BOTH sides need to stop hissing at each other over crowd size. It's so childish.
    you constantly missing the point is hilarious.

    this isn't about the crowd size. this is about a press secretary lying to the public despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. if they can lie about a matter so inconsequential what do you think they will do when it is something that actually matters. They lied their faces off during the campaign and they begin the presidency with a lie on the very first day.
  10. 24 Jan '17 23:25 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi to Mchill
    you constantly missing the point is hilarious.

    this isn't about the crowd size. this is about a press secretary lying to the public despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. if they can lie about a matter so inconsequential what do you think they will do when it is something that actually matters. They lied their faces off during the campaign and they begin the presidency with a lie on the very first day.
    Mchill seems most concerned that the critics are not playing nicely enough with President Trump.
    Critics always should take care to be respectful toward President Trump, even when he's obviously lying.
  11. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    24 Jan '17 23:55
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JbZZ6qzz_U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg9Tu79F4qE

    For the first time ever, a president asked his press secretary to lie. Not just any lying, lying Trump style. In case you didn't know, lying Trump style is when you know the truth, everyone knows the truth, there is photographic evidence supporting the truth, yet y ...[text shortened]... nimal effort.

    Kellyann Conway: "You're calling it lying, I'm calling them alternative facts"
    Have you watched Spicer's press conference, actually heard what he had to say...
    or, as you and your group are wont to do, did you simply get the Reader's Digest condensed version?
    Whichever one you wish to go with, please point out the lie(s), because I've missed any so-called falsity.
  12. 25 Jan '17 00:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JbZZ6qzz_U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg9Tu79F4qE

    For the first time ever, a president asked his press secretary to lie. Not just any lying, lying Trump style. In case you didn't know, lying Trump style is when you know the truth, everyone knows the truth, there is photographic evidence supporting the truth, yet y ...[text shortened]... nimal effort.

    Kellyann Conway: "You're calling it lying, I'm calling them alternative facts"
    The most disturbing lie Trump and his press secretary keep promoting is that millions of illegal immigrants illegally voted. They keep promoting this lie with zero evidence. When the President of the United States blatantly lies about something as serious as millions of fraudulent votes in an election, our democracy is in very serious trouble. The POTUS is spreading fake news. Can any of you on this forum produce credible evidence that millions of people voted illegally?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-voter-fraud-sean-spicer-234120
  13. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    25 Jan '17 01:16
    Originally posted by Phranny
    The most disturbing lie Trump and his press secretary keep promoting is that millions of illegal immigrants illegally voted. They keep promoting this lie with zero evidence. When the President of the United States blatantly lies about something as serious as millions of fraudulent votes in an election, our democracy is in very serious trouble. The POTUS i ...[text shortened]... e voted illegally?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-voter-fraud-sean-spicer-234120
    Politico is not currently a legitimate news source.
    Try again?
  14. 25 Jan '17 10:52
    Originally posted by Phranny
    The most disturbing lie Trump and his press secretary keep promoting is that millions of illegal immigrants illegally voted. They keep promoting this lie with zero evidence. When the President of the United States blatantly lies about something as serious as millions of fraudulent votes in an election, our democracy is in very serious trouble. The POTUS i ...[text shortened]... e voted illegally?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-voter-fraud-sean-spicer-234120
    there are so many lies that it's hard to keep track of them and that is intended. you can't deal with one lie because another one comes up.

    one other factor is that you can't really deal with his lies because he has no shame. you call someone on a lie with concrete evidence and they will get ashamed, this very shame pushes ordinary humans to not lie in the first place. The Donald isn't like that. He doubles down on his lies. He will repeat his lie over and over until you get tired of it and just leave in order to keep your sanity.

    My greatest hope is that one of his future lies will be a cause for impeachment. It will be awful for american gays and women to have Pence as president until 2020 so i would like to thank them for their sacrifice on behalf of the rest of the world.
  15. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    25 Jan '17 11:50
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    there are so many lies that it's hard to keep track of them and that is intended. you can't deal with one lie because another one comes up.

    one other factor is that you can't really deal with his lies because he has no shame. you call someone on a lie with concrete evidence and they will get ashamed, this very shame pushes ordinary humans to not lie in ...[text shortened]... until 2020 so i would like to thank them for their sacrifice on behalf of the rest of the world.
    I missed your response.
    What was the lie?