@AverageJoe1 saidProbably didn't report it on Fox News, but Zelensky was in London receiving renewed pledges of aid from European countries who are also working on a ceasefire proposal backed by a peacekeeping force.
Sonhouse is baiting me, I think you libs call it trolling, to compare the lies of Trump with the lies of Biden.
It is a new era, Shouse. No one is interested in that any more, and certainly not Jan 6!!!! Jesus, that was really something, wasn't it. Typed your heart out.
Send us new material. I predict Trmp will bring Zelinsky to heel, so you will be able to write about World Affairs!!!!
oh lord
@no1marauder saidHere is an example of our not really knowing anything. Trump is ahead of us of course, but consider this: If Zelensky gives in or whatever, his people will kick him out.
You're saying nothing as usual.
All I've seen so far is agreement with Putin's terms i.e. Russia keeps the conquered territories, Ukraine is not allowed in NATO, Ukraine has to have elections to replace Zelensky, etc. etc. etc.
So it seems Putin has a "plan for peace" that Trump agrees with. If that is not so, tell me SPECIFICALLY what Trump's plan is and how it is different from Putin's.
He has 5 yachts, and 3 jet planes. He is worth $30M at last count. He also has thousands of dead bodies in his front yard. F him.
So you should consider that, before being namby pamby about this disgrace he brings upon himself. He does not want the war to end, because he will be persona non gratis. He sat there with entirely diff goals in mind as he pissed off Trump and JD.
Just a small example, may or may not be true, but how can you think you know what is going on.? How can you possibly write this as if 'that is that'??
That is NOT that.
@no1marauder saidAssuming Trump says, OK, forget it,,,,,,let us see him get along without America. He and the all powerful King Charles, can Raise the Union Jack!!!!!
Probably didn't report it on Fox News, but Zelensky was in London receiving renewed pledges of aid from European countries who are also working on a ceasefire proposal backed by a peacekeeping force.
@no1marauder saidDon't be obtuse, it becomes annoying. You can imagine, or maybe you can't that something of this magnitude shifts hour to hour to hour....while you and I do this, there are many people in the know who are working 24 seven all bent over huge conference tables taking it one step at a time every time there is an email or a top-secret message coming in.
You're saying nothing as usual.
All I've seen so far is agreement with Putin's terms i.e. Russia keeps the conquered territories, Ukraine is not allowed in NATO, Ukraine has to have elections to replace Zelensky, etc. etc. etc.
So it seems Putin has a "plan for peace" that Trump agrees with. If that is not so, tell me SPECIFICALLY what Trump's plan is and how it is different from Putin's.
Neither of us is privy to the scene which is behind. Way behind. So, we are all guesswork, savvy? Trump always has a plan, it is the only way his mind works. Your problem is that you think we should all be told what he is thinking right now. Your hammering on this is annoying.
@AverageJoe1 saidNo, your groveling ass kissing of Trump is annoying.
Don't be obtuse, it becomes annoying. You can imagine, or maybe you can't that something of this magnitude shifts hour to hour to hour....while you and I do this, there are many people in the know who are working 24 seven all bent over huge conference tables taking it one step at a time every time there is an email or a top-secret message coming in.
Neither of us is ...[text shortened]... t you think we should all be told what he is thinking right now. Your hammering on this is annoying.
@no1marauder saidWould kamala be better. Who would be better?
No, your groveling ass kissing of Trump is annoying.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou WISH nobody is interested in Trump lies, outdoing BIden a thousand to one and you know fuuking GOOD well.
Sonhouse is baiting me, I think you libs call it trolling, to compare the lies of Trump with the lies of Biden.
It is a new era, Shouse. No one is interested in that any more, and certainly not Jan 6!!!! Jesus, that was really something, wasn't it. Typed your heart out.
Send us new material. I predict Trmp will bring Zelinsky to heel, so you will be able to write about World Affairs!!!!
oh lord
That is not 'baiting' those are REAL lies Trump told and recently.
Ukraine started the war,
We gave 350 BILLION in aid.
FUUKING LIES.
@sonhouse saidHe meant al of the donors to Ukraine, we did upwards $200B. Us against the rest of Europe, we gave 3 to 1!!!!! (How'd I do everyone , do I nail SHouse!! I am not good at calling names, but I have a few!!!!)
You WISH nobody is interested in Trump lies, outdoing BIden a thousand to one and you know fuuking GOOD well.
That is not 'baiting' those are REAL lies Trump told and recently.
Ukraine started the war,
We gave 350 BILLION in aid.
FUUKING LIES.
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@AverageJoe1 saidThere you go, lying right along side Trump. Trump said we gave 350 BILLION to Ukraine, when in fact we gave 117 billion NOT 200 OR 350 billion.
He meant al of the donors to Ukraine, we did upwards $200B. Us against the rest of Europe, we gave 3 to 1!!!!! (How'd I do everyone , do I nail SHouse!! I am not good at calling names, but I have a few!!!!)
And Trump implied we just sent truckloads of cash when in fact we spent ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of that RIGHT HERE paying AMERICAN companies and their workers for making the weapons, not one fuuking PENNY went to Ukraine in cash.
We gave 117 billion while Euro countries together gave ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE BILLION.
That is a FACT JACK.
I already posted the link to Ukraine world wide aid and go find it yourself, don't demand I repost it.
The debacle with Trump, Vance Vs Zelenskyy was a disgrace, Europe is in shock right now from the Putin propaganda Trump puked out on that despicable display of thugery.
Then the Trump commerce sec comes on and lies his way through HIS BS.
Another 300 billion in aid to Ukraine
Taking credit for the FACT JACT that BIDEN passed the chips bill worth HUNDREDS of billions to rebuild chip manufacturing here in the US but that assshole claims credit, WE are rebuilding chip manufacturing.
Another dude just like you with his head firmly up Trumps ass along with all those spineless senators like Linsey Graham CRACKER a few weeks ago saying how we will help Ukraine to the end and now its UKRAINE started the war and we are sick and tired of it.
The entire repub, well FORMER republican party members now the Trumplican party, ALL of them bowing down nose to the ground groveling at Trump.
Spineless ballless ASSSHOLES who should have voted yes on EITHER impeachment years ago and we would not be in this stupid situation we are in now where Trump LITERALLY voted with NORTH KOREA and RUSSIA in the UN vote to condemn Russia for attacking Ukraine.
Russia kidnapped HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Ukrainian children and forced them to become Russian forcing them to live with Russian families.
And we are supposed to fall over and thank the Lord for the second advent of the coming of our Lord Trump.
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@Metal-Brain said"Ignorance is Metal Brain."
Stop condemning peace because you don't like the man that proposed it.
If Trump wanted war you would want peace. If Trump said he likes cats you would hate them.
“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, 1984
And that's not doublespeak.
@Metal-Brain saidUnless it IS debunked.
Lies are not magic. Calling something debunked will not convince anybody but very stupid people.