@Metal-Brain saidAgain, you seen to have a hard time understanding I am a Canadian not an American. Do you believe your country had a good reason to go into other countries???? That would be a question for you to answer as you are resident there.
Now tell us how you feel about all of the unprovoked invasions by the USA. And tell us how many there were.
Can you do that?
-VR
@Metal-Brain saidYour claim that the revolution in Syria was exclusively done by Al-Qaeda terrorists is just another ridiculous lie. I'm sure you got it from your usual Russian propaganda sources, but I already showed how the civil war started.
Al Qaeda terrorists are his own people? How do you know they are from Syria? You don't. You are laughable!
So when terrorists try to overthrow our government they will be our own people too? Then why did you support shooting one of them and locking them up after Jan. 6? You called them insurrectionists and never condemned the killing of an unarmed protester who happened to be a small woman.
Contradictions dude. That is what propaganda gets you to accept.
We have a democracy that the insurrectionists were trying to overthrow on January 6th, 2021. That the exact opposite of a revolution to oust a dictator.
You haven't shown any contradictions except in your own muddled thinking.
@no1marauder saidLOL!
Your claim that the revolution in Syria was exclusively done by Al-Qaeda terrorists is just another ridiculous lie. I'm sure you got it from your usual Russian propaganda sources, but I already showed how the civil war started.
We have a democracy that the insurrectionists were trying to overthrow on January 6th, 2021. That the exact opposite of a revolution to oust a dictator.
You haven't shown any contradictions except in your own muddled thinking.
So it is a mere coincidence that the USA supports a known Al Qaeda terrorist dictator running Syria?
Dude, give it up.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-remove-bounty-syrian-leader-al-qaeda-2004650
@Metal-Brain saidI'm not part of the US government BUT:
LOL!
So it is a mere coincidence that the USA supports a known Al Qaeda terrorist dictator running Syria?
Dude, give it up.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-remove-bounty-syrian-leader-al-qaeda-2004650
Your own article says Sharaa cut ties with AQ more than a decade ago.
Did you actually read it?
And, again, this is just a diversion from the topic of the thread which is Ukraine, not Syria.
@no1marauder saidHow is that relevant? That makes Al Qaeda good now? You are not making any sense.
I'm not part of the US government BUT:
Your own article says Sharaa cut ties with AQ more than a decade ago.
Did you actually read it?
And, again, this is just a diversion from the topic of the thread which is Ukraine, not Syria.
Are you going to be like the ADL defending Nazis in Ukraine as good Nazis and defend Al Qaeda as good Al Qaeda? You must be desperate.
@Metal-Brain saidIt's relevant to your off-topic claim that the Sharaa is an "AQ terrorist". He hasn't been involved with AQ for more than 10 years.
How is that relevant? That makes Al Qaeda good now? You are not making any sense.
Are you going to be like the ADL defending Nazis in Ukraine as good Nazis and defend Al Qaeda as good Al Qaeda? You must be desperate.
@no1marauder saidHow do you know that? And why would that matter when he was a wanted terrorist our government had a bounty on until recently? Now we can work with terrorists.
It's relevant to your off-topic claim that the Sharaa is an "AQ terrorist". He hasn't been involved with AQ for more than 10 years.
The fact that you think this is nothing to be concerned with is amazing. You just go along with anything our government does. You always fall in line with the propaganda narrative no matter how many contradictions there are. The USA intervened in civil wars several times. Serbia and Libya. Clinton and Obama did what you say Russia shouldn't have done for Syria.
And you support an insurrection in Syria by terrorists armed by the US and big surprise the USAID. The USAID were funding insurrectionists. And after Jan. 6 you called the protesters insurrectionists and supported putting it down by killing and imprisoning them.
Insurrections are illegal. You hated one when you thought Trump was leading it and now you support insurrections funded by the US government. Your hypocrisy is all over the place just admit propaganda lead you to accept contradictory things. Now you have to admit you think some insurrections are good and some are bad.
What other insurrections are good in foreign countries? I suppose I should ask you if you would support an insurrection in this country if it was lead by a democrat. You are a partisan creature.
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@Metal-Brain saidInsurrections against dictators are justified by the Natural Law. Insurrections against democratically elected governments are not.
How do you know that? And why would that matter when he was a wanted terrorist our government had a bounty on until recently? Now we can work with terrorists.
The fact that you think this is nothing to be concerned with is amazing. You just go along with anything our government does. You always fall in line with the propaganda narrative no matter how many contradictio ...[text shortened]... d support an insurrection in this country if it was lead by a democrat. You are a partisan creature.
The rest is just your usual raving and BS.
I didn't support NATO intervention in the Balkans.
I didn't support NATO intervention in Libya.
I didn't support any of the things you keep falsely claiming I did.
And I hardly ever vote for Democrats mainly because of foreign policy issues.
@Metal-Brain saidIn other words we should be happy Putin gets to keep 1/3 of Ukraine so he can continue attacking other countries.
So you hate peace. Listen to yourself. Peace never works with blah blah blah.
Is that why you have no problem with our government invading more countries than you can count? Because peace is never the solution.
Peace is bad. That is your retarded position. Orwell wrote a book about people like you.
“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, 1984
Your so called peace is a PIECE OF S H I T.
Because now Trump has turned full view traitor to the US and aligns us with Russia and North Korea, the vote in the UN proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
So take your Putin propaganda and shove it up your traitorous ass.
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@Metal-Brain saidKiss my ass you commie frigging traitor. Assad was a barbarian who murdered tens of thousands of his own citizens and there are such ideas as justified wars.
Your clear hypocrisy. You said this:
"It was interference in the internal affairs of Syria. Assad was a dictator who deserved being overthrown by his own people."
You are ignoring the fact that the US efforts to overthrow Assad "was interference in the internal affairs of Syria". And the US arming Ukraine with free weapons is also interference in the internal affair ...[text shortened]... a country is only bad if Russia does it, not when our government interferes. That is your position.
@AverageJoe1 saidWE CAN HANDLE IT? You mean like because now we are NOT reliable members of NATO and Russia attacks say Poland, will we handle it by putting troops on the ground to help Russia? THAT is what aligning with Russia means.
It could happen, and we could handle it. But let us not get the cart before the horse, y'all are an emotional bunch.
First, we need to let yesterday's Oval play out. Note that Zelensky's main advisor demanded the 'signing' take place in the Oval, publicly. Not privately.
Bad Move, as it worked against Zelensky in the end. Remember the consummate games-man, T ...[text shortened]... verbial corner.
So, we don't have to visit your idea of getting out of NATO. Cart before horse??
Now we have to consider THAT possibility that would never have come up in any sane discussion of foreign policy,.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidWE? You mean your ultrarightwingnuts in control of our formerly called USA government now just US, UNUNTIED STATES run by crazies. Top crazy being Trump.
Sounds good, let Canada go broke supporting the rest of the "free world", we're sick of it..
He is bat S H I T crazy from day one.
@spruce112358 saidThe Russians felt themselves provoked by the steady eastward march of NATO after the reunification of Germany, for example, into Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. I don’t think the West is entirely innocent in this affair, but that was still no justification for Russia to invade Ukraine. Furthermore, bombarding civilian infrastructure is a clear violation of international law in the conduct of war.
And the assurance not to join NATO will kept JUST EXACTLY as well as Russian guarantees of Ukrainian security in 1994* were kept! 😆
*in exchange for Ukrainian nuclear arms (wow... what a mistake THAT was!)
@sonhouse saidSonhouse is actually saying that he has thought of something (that we will put boots on the ground to help Russia) THAT WOULD NEVER HAVE COME UP IN ANY SANE DISCUSSION OF FOREIGN POLICY!!! No one would think of it.
WE CAN HANDLE IT? You mean like because now we are NOT reliable members of NATO and Russia attacks say Poland, will we handle it by putting troops on the ground to help Russia? THAT is what aligning with Russia means.
Now we have to consider THAT possibility that would never have come up in any sane discussion of foreign policy,.
SONHOUSE For Secretary of State and Defense!!!!
@AverageJoe1 saidThat is 100% correct, that possibility would never have even been on the table 20 years ago but now Trump has publicly aligned himself with Putin, spouting Putin propaganda lines over and over again, like Ukraine started the war and other absolute lies and so there WILL be a question whether if Russia gets in trouble militarily in the NEXT country they attack and believe me, they WILL attack another country because that is what barbarian dictators do, then the question is exactly that, will TRUMP order military aid to RUSSIA if they need help in the NEXT attack on another sovereign country?
Sonhouse is actually saying that he has thought of something (that we will put boots on the ground to help Russia) THAT WOULD NEVER HAVE COME UP IN ANY SANE DISCUSSION OF FOREIGN POLICY!!! No one would think of it.
SONHOUSE For Secretary of State and Defense!!!!
You have your head in the sand of disbelief if you think Trump isn't on the side of Russia RIGHT NOW.