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Trump, DISGRACFUL shouting match with Zelenskyy

Trump, DISGRACFUL shouting match with Zelenskyy

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@sonhouse said
That is 100% correct, that possibility would never have even been on the table 20 years ago but now Trump has publicly aligned himself with Putin, spouting Putin propaganda lines over and over again, like Ukraine started the war and other absolute lies and so there WILL be a question whether if Russia gets in trouble militarily in the NEXT country they attack and believe me, ...[text shortened]... ou have your head in the sand of disbelief if you think Trump isn't on the side of Russia RIGHT NOW.
I thought Chump wanted to be an isolationist. So far he seems to be doing a great job of making us more and more isolated from other countries -- like a big, beautiful bubble universe that nobody else wants to deal with.


@Indonesia-Phil said
Talking of truth, and just as an aside, really, even the the most ardent Trump supporters must concede that Mister Trump is an itinerant and habitual liar; this has been proved countless times. He appears to say whatever comes into his head, or whatever it was that the last person said to him, regardless of its' accuracy or otherwise. ('They're eating the cats, they're ...[text shortened]... uation where nobody expects him to speak the truth any more. Lies, damned lies, and Mister Trump....
“Did I say that? I can’t believe I said that. Next question.”

Says it all 🫤

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@Arkturos said
I thought Chump wanted to be an isolationist. So far he seems to be doing a great job of making us more and more isolated from other countries -- like a big, beautiful bubble universe that nobody else wants to deal with.
If Trump sides with Russia against Ukraine, as he appears to be doing, no country will sign a treaty with America while Trump remains in office. He throws allies under the bus at the drop of a hat. Without allies, it’s not American first, it’s America alone.

Off topic here, but by cutting USAID, he’s driving the Third World straight into the arms of China. That not only isn’t America first, it’s outright abdicating America’s role on the world stage of being “special.”


@moonbus said
If Trump sides with Russia against Ukraine, as he appears to be doing, no country will sign a treaty with America while Trump remains in office. He throws allies under the bus at the drop of a hat. Without allies, it’s not American first, it’s America alone.

Off topic here, but by cutting USAID, he’s driving the Third World straight into the arms of China. That not only isn’t America first, it’s outright abdicating America’s role on the world stage of being “special.”
And why that isn't obvious to the house and senate repubs I don't know, but mainly it must have something to do with all of them being spineless and ballless with ZERO in any aptitude for fighting for America, just wanting to keep their own power stream intact at all costs.


@spruce112358 said
My neighbor @AverageJoe1 indicated that he wanted to join a country club. 😆

I told him this was intolerable. I hate golf. Further, I felt provoked. What if he achieved more access to prominent individuals than me? Then my interests could be threatened. What if he and his buddies attacked me? So I considered my options.

First, I issued a strongly worded communique i ...[text shortened]... gant bastard. Why doesn't he just acknowledge my legitimate interests and follow my instructions? 😆
If only.


@AverageJoe1 said
Libs confuse, on purpose, lying with negotiating. Watch an expert, kids. You should know that he will get the minerals. He will win the tariff gambit....he is only asking for fairness (truth, Sue??), he is just so smart and y'all are throwing everything at him.. If I were. dependent reliant liberal i might whine myself.
It is quite clear he and Musk want to shrink government. Y'all like a lot of government. We get it!!!!@
It seems impossible for one such as yourself to have your head so far up Trumps ass you believe every lie he pukes out of his ugly orange mouth.
The list of his lies is in the thousands, like
I will end the war on day one,
I will bring the cost of groceries down on day one.
I will build the wall and Mexico will pay for it.
Stick a UV light up your ass, kills Covid in minutes,
Ingest disinfectant, kills Covid in minutes.
Tariff's punish foreign companies.
Ukraine started the war.
We (the US) gave 350 BILLION to Ukraine.
I will NEVER touch Medicare, Social security, medicaid.
The plane crash was caused by DEI.
And OF COURSE you believe every fuuking word.


@sonhouse said
And why that isn't obvious to the house and senate repubs I don't know, but mainly it must have something to do with all of them being spineless and ballless with ZERO in any aptitude for fighting for America, just wanting to keep their own power stream intact at all costs.
Yes, I too am dismayed at how gutless the GOP has become, and how completely amoral and without principles. I remember when the presidential campaign of Gary Hart was torpedoed by a photograph of a pretty girl sitting on his lap, not his wife. And now the Republicans are behind a convicted felon and sex offender. It just makes no sense to me at all.


@Indonesia-Phil said
Lying is lying; if you think that lying is a good negotiating tactic then here ends the conversation. The rest of your post has nothing to do with my observation.
If you and I are negotiating purchase of my warehouse, and I say 'you better go ahead and pay me $200K, because another guy is seriously going to buy it tomorrow", that is a lie.
So it goes in the real world, including politics.

I predicted that Z would sign the mineral deal by this weekend....I guess that that was a lie, as he did not? Let us discuss the nature of lies. And campaigning. Or better, let us not. Let us all make decisions based on common sense and how much you want for this country. How about this....Trump did not achieve his intent, but it sure is nice to know that he is the ONLY man who has a plan for peace. Our president. And I said last week that Trump will achieve Peace by the end of the year. I still predict that, .....maybe by April.
Do you not love your president calling the shots, he exhibits strength. He says that there will be no deal if Z does not apologize. I love it. He will prevail.
The rest of your post......oh, well. We should not have Trump as president.
Please write about his plan for peace.


@AverageJoe1 said
If you and I are negotiating purchase of my warehouse, and I say 'you better go ahead and pay me $200K, because another guy is seriously going to buy it tomorrow", that is a lie.
So it goes in the real world, including politics.

I predicted that Z would sign the mineral deal by this weekend....I guess that that was a lie, as he did not? Let us discuss the nature of l ...[text shortened]... t......oh, well. We should not have Trump as president.
Please write about his plan for peace.
What is his "plan for peace" specifically?


@no1marauder
surely you jest


@AverageJoe1 said
@no1marauder
surely you jest
No, I don't.

You claimed he, and only he, has a "plan for peace".

Share it.


@no1marauder said
No, I don't.

You claimed he, and only he, has a "plan for peace".

Share it.
Not about to write all that, it is quite evident in the news. Not your news, apparently, since you don't know about it. His plan is all encompassing,, which is why libs do not 'get it''. It involves bringing Europe in line after he gets the Ukraine agreement and settles Putin down. Talk about respect,,,,he will have it. Don't think so small. IF we had Kamala, she would fit your thinking nicely.
Sorry, I do not know what goes on in the War room. But generally, he will bring all of Europe to the fore. You see, he will not be satisfied just cleaning up our mess,,,,witness DOGE. He has bigger things in mind.

Speaking of President Kamala, would she be busy making our country great again? Or, what would she be doing? Having all her friends for lunch at the WH? Jesus. You and sonhouse make great bedfellows.
Can you, ,since you brought it up, name any country who has a plan that is better than ANY plan which Trump has? Which Country? Or, we just the GD best of them all.?

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@sonhouse said
It seems impossible for one such as yourself to have your head so far up Trumps ass you believe every lie he pukes out of his ugly orange mouth.
The list of his lies is in the thousands, like
I will end the war on day one,
I will bring the cost of groceries down on day one.
I will build the wall and Mexico will pay for it.
Stick a UV light up your ass, kills Covid in m ...[text shortened]... curity, medicaid.
The plane crash was caused by DEI.
And OF COURSE you believe every fuuking word.
Sonhouse is baiting me, I think you libs call it trolling, to compare the lies of Trump with the lies of Biden.
It is a new era, Shouse. No one is interested in that any more, and certainly not Jan 6!!!! Jesus, that was really something, wasn't it. Typed your heart out.

Send us new material. I predict Trmp will bring Zelinsky to heel, so you will be able to write about World Affairs!!!!
oh lord


@AverageJoe1 said
Not about to write all that, it is quite evident in the news. Not your news, apparently, since you don't know about it. His plan is all encompassing,, which is why libs do not 'get it''. It involves bringing Europe in line after he gets the Ukraine agreement and settles Putin down. Talk about respect,,,,he will have it. Don't think so small. IF we had Kamala, she woul ...[text shortened]... that is better than ANY plan which Trump has? Which Country? Or, we just the GD best of them all.?
You're saying nothing as usual.

All I've seen so far is agreement with Putin's terms i.e. Russia keeps the conquered territories, Ukraine is not allowed in NATO, Ukraine has to have elections to replace Zelensky, etc. etc. etc.

So it seems Putin has a "plan for peace" that Trump agrees with. If that is not so, tell me SPECIFICALLY what Trump's plan is and how it is different from Putin's.

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