@sonhouse saidYes it is. You cannot condone illegal orders from Obama and condemn Trump for it without being a hypocrite. You have to be against ALL illegal orders or you are nothing but a partisan hack.
Attacking Obama or Biden or JFK is not the issue. The ISSUE is the PRESENT SITTING president is calling for the DEATH of people who said the EXACT same thing at WEST POINT, they make that perfectly clear to their new OCS students.
Why are THEY not threated with death?
BESIDES, ALL this crap is empty threats on Trumps end but he KNOWS if he says to attack people INDIVIDU ...[text shortened]... leasing the files which he will fight tooth and nail it ain't over even with Trump signing the bill.
why wasn't Obama held accountable for killing 3 innocent American citizens in a drone strike? If you killed 3 innocent people do you know what would happen to you? You would rot in prison for the rest of your life.
Presidents are above the law. They should not be, but they are.
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@sonhouse saidCould you ask your lawyer what his take is on the PERFECT demeanor of your horrible president as he charmed Mamdani today?
BORING? A dude who is a REAL lawyer against you who can't even read more than a paragraph at a time?
There is one aspect of this terrible episode, Trump knew all along exactly what he was saying and he has no plan to actually do anything further, the whole thing was a HOAX a manipulation of media for the express purpose of DISTRACTION about the Epstein file release.
H ...[text shortened]... to DON'T OBAY ANY ORDERS.
Which is again, DISTRACTION. There is no here here, it is ALL BULLCRAP.
He laughed off Mamdani having called him traitor, despot and fascist. So cool. No nodding off. No cackling. BTW, have you ever seen him 'laugh' and lose his composure?? Never. Cooler than the underside of a pillow.
You know that the genius Trump is setting up that inane lightweight Bernie-clone, will cut him off at the knees.
Oh another thing..... another black congresswoman crockett, in the news (after those two black lawyers in Sobhouse's 34 felonies gambit) said to CNN that Lee Zeldin had taken donations from he Pedophile, but the money was paid by a Neurosurgeon, same name, Jeffrey Epstein. Can he sue her for slander, ask your lawyer, the constitution reader.
And did yoy ever tell us who should be president, considering the $20T investment in the works? Did you answer me as to why you still say Saudis gave $2B to Jared?
@sonhouse saidWell we have plenty of Navy down there right now. Just send a SEAL or two over and just take over one of the boats and PROVE to us that it's full of drugs. Hegseth is a coward who doesn't want to be proved wrong and make his boss look bad. He'd rather just continue killing people for nothing.
And at least one of those boats was a professional FISHING BOAT.
But nobody bothers to stop the boat and do a search for drugs, NOPE, HEY THERE IS A BOAT, BLOW IT OUT THE WATER.
And another distraction with the HANG those congressmen, and another, We MAYBE will attack Venezuela, maybe we won't JUST like when he said the same thing before the Iran bombing run, where three ...[text shortened]... stroy but even as recently as last week Trump touts that bomb run as the best bombing in US history.
@Suzianne saidI agree with Suzanne. We should pull a boat over and inspect it. Then we will know what we are dealing with. I think that is fair. I will be the first person to say Trump should not do this. But you will look back and see that I have already said that. I do not think that Trump should be doing this. Thank you for your time
Well we have plenty of Navy down there right now. Just send a SEAL or two over and just take over one of the boats and PROVE to us that it's full of drugs. Hegseth is a coward who doesn't want to be proved wrong and make his boss look bad. He'd rather just continue killing people for nothing.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou blow a boat out of the water, killing all aboard without checking for actual drugs has a name. That name is MURDER pure and simple, US NAVY or otherwise.
If in the harbor, of course, you are exactly right, it would be handled differently. I’m glad you brought that up.
As to whether we should let us look on board is beyond me I am not schooled in military tactics or the political side of how to handle this big problem., nor are you since we are not there. I think little drones are doing the shooting so they cannot hav ...[text shortened]... own in plain good old boy language so you can understand me. Sorry it does not read very eloquently.
And BTW, the orders to blow up those boats without due process is ILLEGAL in itself. THAT is what those congress folks were talking about, DON'T obey ILLEGAL orders NOT legal orders but OF COURSE your LORD TRUMP weaponized it totally ignoring the actual message BECAUSE Trump thinks there is no such thing as an illegal order IF IT CAME FROM YOUR LORD TRUMP.
@AverageJoe1 saidSomething we agree on. That is new🙂
I agree with Suzanne. We should pull a boat over and inspect it. Then we will know what we are dealing with. I think that is fair. I will be the first person to say Trump should not do this. But you will look back and see that I have already said that. I do not think that Trump should be doing this. Thank you for your time
@Metal-Brain saidFK OBAMA orders, he is in the past it is TRUMP doing extreme damage to our reputation overseas, he is a laughing stock, a CLOWN to Europe and those folks USED to be our stanchest allies. Trump pissed off ALL our Euro allies. And that is a FACT.
Yes it is. You cannot condone illegal orders from Obama and condemn Trump for it without being a hypocrite. You have to be against ALL illegal orders or you are nothing but a partisan hack.
why wasn't Obama held accountable for killing 3 innocent American citizens in a drone strike? If you killed 3 innocent people do you know what would happen to you? You would rot in ...[text shortened]... prison for the rest of your life.
Presidents are above the law. They should not be, but they are.
@sonhouse saidThis illegal vs legal discussion is in the works. Me, I am troubled with words like constitutional due process, (for people who are in other countries !!!!) and what a president can or cannot do, and, if stopping potential harm by aliens, illegal or not, can be considered a bad idea!!!! 😆 😆 😆 😆
You blow a boat out of the water, killing all aboard without checking for actual drugs has a name. That name is MURDER pure and simple, US NAVY or otherwise.
And BTW, the orders to blow up those boats without due process is ILLEGAL in itself. THAT is what those congress folks were talking about, DON'T obey ILLEGAL orders NOT legal orders but OF COURSE your LORD TRUMP weapon ...[text shortened]... age BECAUSE Trump thinks there is no such thing as an illegal order IF IT CAME FROM YOUR LORD TRUMP.
Your posts are pitiful. I agree that Trump should protect us from these boats ina different way, but otherwise, your post is, well, stupid.
@AverageJoe1 saidWhen they are several miles from a navy boat and they can't even see them? How are YOU going to tell without boarding them if they are drug runners? There is no technology that can read if there was cocaine on board, like some sneaky laser deal, that ain't here at least not yet. So BLOW THEM UP just on SUSPICION of drugs.
Then you tell me this. Why would someone ride their boat down to an area that is being patrolled by USA military. They put themselves in harms way, and those heathens out in those boats are causing us to waste a lot of typing time on the forum when I could be getting myself a pour of Jack Daniels
@AverageJoe1 saidI thought you SAID you passed the bar exams and you are TROUBLED by the words DUE PROCESS? A FKING FUNDAMENTAL principle of our constitution. So I guess you figure due process is only in place for WHITEY, brown skins, black skins, BLOW THEM OUT THE WATER, Judge, Jury and EXECUTIONER.
This illegal vs legal discussion is in the works. Me, I am troubled with words like constitutional due process, (for people who are in other countries !!!!) and what a president can or cannot do, and, if stopping potential harm by aliens, illegal or not, can be considered a bad idea!!!! 😆 😆 😆 😆
Your posts are pitiful. I agree that Trump should protect us from these boats ina different way, but otherwise, your post is, well, stupid.
Or the word CONSTITUTIONAL? So it sounds like you are full in with Project 2025.
@sonhouse said2.5 M Native-born Americans gained employment over this year. 670 thousand LOST employment. Trump success. You never bring that up. He is driving aliens out so your uncle can get a job. Even the POPE yesterday said countries should have a right to decide who comes into their countries.
FK OBAMA orders, he is in the past it is TRUMP doing extreme damage to our reputation overseas, he is a laughing stock, a CLOWN to Europe and those folks USED to be our stanchest allies. Trump pissed off ALL our Euro allies. And that is a FACT.
Over Biden's 4 years, dems totally gutted our working class, brought 10M foreign workers, caused the food crisis, the housing crisis, insurance crisis,flooed our healthcare, then they did all the stuff they did during Covid, raised auto prices,,,,,,,fixing 4 years of hell cannot be done in a few months....but look what has been done in 9 months.
Moral clarity matters. Illegals have to go home. Do you think they should go home...having broken our entry law?? Sonhouse?nLook at Europe, is that a good model? The price of entry here has to be assimilation. Look that up. Say yes, AvJoe, that is a good idea.
@sonhouse saidFor 250 years the US Navy has been interdicting ships at sea if there was any hint of illegal activity on those ships.
When they are several miles from a navy boat and they can't even see them? How are YOU going to tell without boarding them if they are drug runners? There is no technology that can read if there was cocaine on board, like some sneaky laser deal, that ain't here at least not yet. So BLOW THEM UP just on SUSPICION of drugs.
Interdicting, not simply 'blowing them up'. Taking possession of the cargo is the ONLY way you can prove that what they were doing is illegal.
It's exactly like cops on land. You think someone is doing something illegal, you go and arrest them and examine them and the situation. Cops cannot simply kill everyone they think is breaking the law. That is murder, and blowing up these ships without probable cause is murder, too.
@sonhouse saidOh man, once again you misrepresent what I say, do you know that Suzanne reads this stuff.... yeah yeah yeah due process may be a good idea , you got me there. But you see, I was saying that there are people out in the ocean that have probably never even set foot in this country and cannot speak English and so it goes.
I thought you SAID you passed the bar exams and you are TROUBLED by the words DUE PROCESS? A FKING FUNDAMENTAL principle of our constitution. So I guess you figure due process is only in place for WHITEY, brown skins, black skins, BLOW THEM OUT THE WATER, Judge, Jury and EXECUTIONER.
Or the word CONSTITUTIONAL? So it sounds like you are full in with Project 2025.
My problem, law references by you notwithstanding.....my problem is…… Due process? The constitution of the United States, aliens of other countries 1000 miles away.??? Type it this way.... Unknown aliens, 1000 miles away, due process, constitution, due process, 1000 miles away, aliens unknown, it goes on........
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@AverageJoe1 saidHow are you getting those numbers since Trump FIRED the commissioner of the bureau of Labor statistics, DOCTOR Erika Mcentarfer BECAUSE she posted a bad jobs report, like 1/4th new jobs that was happening under Biden, where Biden's jobs report were something like 200,000 and sometimes even MORE new jobs. But Trump HATED the idea there were some 80,000 new jobs so what did he do? FIRE THE MESSENGER and she had done that job for some 5 Presidents and THEY all had no problems with her analysis and she did her job REALLY WELL but Trump could not take the numbers she gave so OUT THE FKING DOOR BITCH.
2.5 M Native-born Americans gained employment over this year. 670 thousand LOST employment. Trump success. You never bring that up. He is driving aliens out so your uncle can get a job. Even the POPE yesterday said countries should have a right to decide who comes into their countries.
Over Biden's 4 years, dems totally gutted our working class, brought 10M fore ...[text shortened]... The price of entry here has to be assimilation. Look that up. Say yes, AvJoe, that is a good idea.
THAT is why we don't have real numbers because she has a PhD in statistics. And the GOONS whom Trump replaces are FKING AMATEURS so GOOD LUCK getting accurate job numbers.
This is EXACTLY like in Trump V1, he goes DON'T RECORD and report Covid numbers so he doesn't have to hear bad numbers EXACTLY what went on with Job numbers.
And OF COURSE you would never believe that because you never heard THAT on NEWSMAX.