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Trump Says He Will Not Allow Israel to Annex West Bank

Trump Says He Will Not Allow Israel to Annex West Bank

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@no1marauder said
No, I'm sure they would continue to oppress the Palestinians and deny them their Natural Rights should they illegally annex those areas.
If the Arab Palestinians continue engage in acts of terrorism then yes for sure they will call themselves oppressed, because the IDF will respond in kind and with greater force. Terrorists have no natural rights ... they can F... off and go to hell.

On the other hand if the Arabs living in Gaza become wary of war and desire peace they surely know what to do.


@MickeyD said
What do you mean deny natural rights, that soujds open ended. What is an example, obviously beyond genocide, etc
See the Declaration of Independence for further details.


@Rajk999 said
If the Arab Palestinians continue engage in acts of terrorism then yes for sure they will call themselves oppressed, because the IDF will respond in kind and with greater force. Terrorists have no natural rights ... they can F... off and go to hell.

On the other hand if the Arabs living in Gaza become wary of war and desire peace they surely know what to do.
The Israelis have been oppressing the Palestinians for more than 50 years whether any of them engage in terrorism or not.


@MickeyD said
What do you mean deny natural rights, that soujds open ended. What is an example, obviously beyond genocide, etc
An example would be that it violates the Natural Right to Liberty to kidnap someone and lock them in your basement.


@Rajk999 said
I think you underestimate the Jews. Not all Arabs will be given citizenship. In particular those who are terrorists, and supporters of terrorists, will have no such privilege of becoming an Israeli citizen. More than half of the Gaza and West Bank population will fall into this group.
Interestingly Donald Trump has defined Antifa as terrorists.


@no1marauder said
The Israelis have been oppressing the Palestinians for more than 50 years whether any of them engage in terrorism or not.
The Arab Palestinians have engaged in terrorism for over 100 years against the Jews. To be fair both had some minor and major tussels and never got along. Hence the division of Palestine was necessary.


@AThousandYoung said
Interestingly Donald Trump has defined Antifa as terrorists.
Yes they are terrorists as well.


@AThousandYoung said
An example would be that it violates the Natural Right to Liberty to kidnap someone and lock them in your basement.
Yes, that goes without saying, it is like saying to not starve someone, so I guess marauder had a reason for sayhing something so obvious, since it is a given


@Rajk999 said
The Arab Palestinians have engaged in terrorism for over 100 years against the Jews. To be fair both had some minor and major tussels and never got along. Hence the division of Palestine was necessary.
If it was "necessary" in 1948, why isn't it "necessary" in 2025?


@no1marauder said
If it was "necessary" in 1948, why isn't it "necessary" in 2025?
Simple. In 1948, the assumption was that the Arabs would accept the UN approved Partition Plan and live in relative peace. Nobody really could have foreseen that the Arabs were hell-bent on destroying the Jews, even today that is their stated goal. In 2025, it is clear that if the Arab Palestinians are allowed a state, since their goal is destruction of the Jews, the war will continue. I know this what people like you want to see ... more war. But the Jews are not allowing it. No more separate state for Hamas and their ilk to regroup and attack again.


@MickeyD said
Yes, that goes without saying, it is like saying to not starve someone, so I guess marauder had a reason for sayhing something so obvious, since it is a given
Absolutely. They are self evident.

Natural Rights is how the founders of the USA defined these moral ideas into legal terms.


@Rajk999 said
Yes they are terrorists as well.
Nice easy way to deny the opponents of fascism the vote isn't it? Declare them supporters of anti fascism.


@AThousandYoung said
Nice easy way to deny the opponents of fascism the vote isn't it? Declare them supporters of anti fascism.
Who is stopping anyone from voting in the US?


@Rajk999: What god ? plagiarizing monotheism from egyptian ideas of one god??..by claiming that he is the god of Israel a thousand years latter..


@Rajk999 said
Simple. In 1948, the assumption was that the Arabs would accept the UN approved Partition Plan and live in relative peace. Nobody really could have foreseen that the Arabs were hell-bent on destroying the Jews, even today that is their stated goal. In 2025, it is clear that if the Arab Palestinians are allowed a state, since their goal is destruction of the Jews, the war wi ...[text shortened]... ws are not allowing it. No more separate state for Hamas and their ilk to regroup and attack again.
You have a demented and completely wrong view on history has been shown here many times. It was abundantly obvious in 1948 that the majority of Palestinian Arabs would not accept partition willingly.

Basically, you just change your position to whatever the Zionists desire at whatever time they desire it.