@Earl-of-Trumps saidI'm no biblical expert, Earl, but isn't that area of the world part of the Jewish
Are you sure that these Ashkenazi Jews are in fact the legal ancestors of the land?
Kingdom going back to before the Old Testament days? like 5000 years before Mohammed and the s.h..it Islamic religion came along?
I still like you.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidEarl is a supporter of Islam. He is ok with US grants and aid to Muslim countries but complains bitterly about aid to Israel.
I'm no biblical expert, Earl, but isn't that area of the world part of the Jewish
Kingdom going back to before the Old Testament days? like 5000 years before Mohammed and the s.h..it Islamic religion came along?
I still like you.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidGee, does that mean we have to give back the US to the Native Americans who were here more than 5000 years ago before your s**t "Christian" white nationalism?
I'm no biblical expert, Earl, but isn't that area of the world part of the Jewish
Kingdom going back to before the Old Testament days? like 5000 years before Mohammed and the s.h..it Islamic religion came along?
I still like you.
@Rajk999 saidThe Zionists were waging war long before 1948.
Oh so now you are changing your 'facts'. The British did in fact have the Mandate to provide a national home for the Jews, and they did that, except the stupid Arabs did not accept the decsion of the British and the UN in 1948. They instead made war. Right. I got it. Its the Jews fault... f..king moron.
What idiots like you wanted to see was full Arab control, and th ...[text shortened]... o.
No Jew, neither anyone with some brains will ever want to live under, near or with any Muslim.
You expect Muslims to tamely accept to live under Jewish rule, but deny, even in the face of more than a 1000 years of precedent, that Jews can live under Muslim rule. This is just another example of your profoundly stupid bigoted ignorance.
@no1marauder saidThere were roughly 12,000,000 native Americans in the US back when the Europeans started arriving. North America is a massive continent so they could not possibly own all of it. So your analogy is nonsense.
Gee, does that mean we have to give back the US to the Native Americans who were here more than 5000 years ago before your s**t "Christian" white nationalism?
@Rajk999 saidBoy, you're an idiot.
There were roughly 12,000,000 native Americans in the US back when the Europeans started arriving. North America is a massive continent so they could not possibly own all of it. So your analogy is nonsense.
When Europeans arrived, they immediately found other people living in and claiming the areas they landed in. I do not recall any claims that those people didn't own the land - only that the Europeans claimed they had some right to steal it from then based on religious and/or racist reasoning.
This would be another area where it probably would help if you had ever read a college level history book.
@no1marauder saidYes the Arab and Jews were fighting since the Jews started entering their homeland back in 1915. The Arabs did not have to live under Jewish rule, you f..ing moron. The Arabs were given their own portion which they rejected and instead wanted all of Palestine which was not theirs to want, and started the war which lost.
The Zionists were waging war long before 1948.
You expect Muslims to tamely accept to live under Jewish rule, but deny, even in the face of more than a 1000 years of precedent, that Jews can live under Muslim rule. This is just another example of your profoundly stupid bigoted ignorance.
Jews were abused under Muslim rule. They were second class citizens, they were denied certain rights and were forced to pay some stupid jizya tax for being Jewish. Plus no decent Jew would enjoy living with those animals. They raped women, married 6 yr old girls, they stoned people to death.
There are 2,000,000 Arabs living in Israel. There are almost no Jews living in any Muslim country. That tells you something.
@no1marauder saidYour analogy is nonsense. There was a reasonable partition on the table which the Arabs rejected. I bet now they would like an opportunity to have that partition back. But no such luck. Good riddance too.
Boy, you're an idiot.
When Europeans arrived, they immediately found other people living in and claiming the areas they landed in. I do not recall any claims that those people didn't own the land - only that the Europeans claimed they had some right to steal it from then based on religious and/or racist reasoning.
This would be another area where it probably would help if you had ever read a college level history book.
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@Rajk999 saidIt was up to the People in Palestine to decide what was " reasonable" under accepted principles of self-determination. That you regard that as subhumans who should always meekly bend the knee to their betters based on your ignorant bigoted ideas doesn't change that fact.
Your analogy is nonsense. There was a reasonable partition on the table which the Arabs rejected. I bet now they would like an opportunity to have that partition back. But no such luck. Good riddance too.
That the Zionists and the British announced in 1917 that Jews, a tiny portion of the population of Palestine, should rule over any portion of it was not binding on the People who actually lived there.
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@Rajk999 saidAgain, if you had ever read a history book, you'd know that: "the region "provided a principal place of refuge for Jews driven out of Western Europe by massacres and persecution."[1]"
Yes the Arab and Jews were fighting since the Jews started entering their homeland back in 1915. The Arabs did not have to live under Jewish rule, you f..ing moron. The Arabs were given their own portion which they rejected and instead wanted all of Palestine which was not theirs to want, and started the war which lost.
Jews were abused under Muslim rule. They were secon ...[text shortened]... living in Israel. There are almost no Jews living in any Muslim country. That tells you something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire
There is considerable irony in the fact that Zionism was primarily motivated to escape the persecution meted out by Christian fanatics like yourself against Jews in Europe.
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@no1marauder saidMore nonsense. The Arab owned nothing except indivudual pieces of land. The country belonged to the British Empire. In the 1920, the British issued British Palestinian currency, British Palestinian passports and ID cards, built infrastructure and schools etc. Prior to that they were a backward primitive society, and they should be thankful.
It was up to the People in Palestine to decide what was " reasonable" under accepted principles of self-determination. That you regard that as subhumans who should always meekly bend the knee to their betters based on your ignorant bigoted ideas doesn't change that fact.
That the Zionists and the British announced in 1917 that Jews, a tiny portion of the population of ...[text shortened]... alestine, should rule over any portion of it was not binding on the People who actually lived there.
Self determination was discussed around 1945 when the UN was established and only ratified in 1960. In 1915 there was no such thing as self-determination. That was the age of conquest and colonialism.
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@no1marauder saidObviously you did not read your own link. The thing is full of how the Jews were persecuted, taxed, forced to live as second class citizens and killed in many cases all over the Ottoman Empire. Islam breeds killers. Things have not changed. In many Islamic countries Christians are murdered and churches burned. F..ing sick animals.
Again, if you had ever read a history book, you'd know that: "the region "provided a principal place of refuge for Jews driven out of Western Europe by massacres and persecution."[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire
There is considerable irony in the fact that Zionism was primarily motivated to escape the persecution meted out by Christian fanatics like yourself against Jews in Europe.
@Rajk999 saiddumb basterd, they were persecuted in the christian nations too
Obviously you did not read your own link. The thing is full of how the Jews were persecuted, taxed, forced to live as second class citizens and killed in many cases all over the Ottoman Empire. Islam breeds killers. Things have not changed. In many Islamic countries Christians are murdered and churches burned. F..ing sick animals.