Trump wants to stop Muslim immigration.

Originally posted by vistesd
[b]This tells me that Hillary believes that illegal immigrants in the US have a right to be US citizens.

Really? Ever study any logic?[/b]

Why then does she forbid the use of the term "illegal immigrant"?

Originally posted by whodey
Why then does she forbid the use of the term "illegal immigrant"?

Have you been forbidden from using the term?

EDIT: To distinguish legal immigrants from illegals?

Originally posted by vistesd
No, no, no. It isn't Godwin. It's what the Nazis themselves are saying. Are they subject to Godwin's (supposed) Law?

You brought up the Nazi's because they apparently agree with something I have to say.

Now what does NAZI stand for? Is it not the National Socialist Party?

I would suspect the NAZI party has much more in common with the left than conservatives. They are a bunch of collectivist fascists as where I call for decentralization and a return to Federalism and an end to wars abroad.

Originally posted by whodey
Thanks for that.

Now try a post that addresses the issues I raise.

Why respond to somebody who says poor Trump is a victim of hatred and bigotry because people condemn his hate filled and bigoted statements?

Originally posted by no1marauder
Why respond to somebody who says poor Trump is a victim of hatred and bigotry because people condemn his hate filled and bigoted statements?

As we all know, everyone has been a victim of hate or bigotry at some point in their lives, except for Trump, but I think that is only common sense. 🙄

People like me are compared to the Taliban by Progs and are called radical extermists, and Trump has a monopoly on hate speech?

Originally posted by vistesd
Have you been forbidden from using the term?

EDIT: To distinguish legal immigrants from illegals?

Hillary Clinton has promised to excise “illegal immigrants” from her vocabulary after being called out for using the insensitive term.

In a Tuesday afternoon Facebook Q&A hosted by Noticias Telemundo, journalist and filmmaker Jose Antonio Vargas asked:


Madame Secretary, in speaking at a campaign stop about immigration reform, you recently referred to “illegal immigrants”—an offensive term that many leaders and media have abandoned in recent years. On behalf of the organization I founded, Define American, and the 11.7 million undocumented immigrants in this country—including myself—I am asking all the presidential candidates to recognize that #wordsmatter by committing to not using the term “illegal” when referencing that undocumented population. Will you make that commitment?


“Yes, I will,” Clinton promptly responded. “That was a poor choice of words. As I’ve said throughout this campaign, the people at the heart of this issue are children, parents, families, DREAMers. They have names, and hopes and dreams that deserve to be respected.”


“I’ve talked about undocumented immigrants hundreds of times and fought for years for comprehensive immigration reform,” she continued, “And I will continue to do so. We are a country built by immigrants and our diversity makes us stronger as a nation—it’s something to be proud of, celebrate, and defend

Originally posted by whodey
You brought up the Nazi's because they apparently agree with something I have to say.

Now what does NAZI stand for? Is it not the National Socialist Party?

I would suspect the NAZI party has much more in common with the left than conservatives. They are a bunch of collectivist fascists as where I call for decentralization and a return to Federalism and an end to wars abroad.

I have given you the opportunity to distance yourself from whatever reasons for supporting Trump the Nazis have that you don't share. You can do that or not.

Originally posted by whodey
Hillary Clinton has promised to excise “illegal immigrants” from her vocabulary after being called out for using the insensitive term.

In a Tuesday afternoon Facebook Q&A hosted by Noticias Telemundo, journalist and filmmaker Jose Antonio Vargas asked:


Madame Secretary, in speaking at a campaign stop about immigration reform, you recently referred to ...[text shortened]... our diversity makes us stronger as a nation—it’s something to be proud of, celebrate, and defend

How you leap from there to the notion of automatic citizenship must be mystical.

Originally posted by vistesd
I have given you the opportunity to distance yourself from whatever reasons for supporting Trump the Nazis have that you don't share. You can do that or not.

I have no wish to defend the NAZI party, which is why I oppose the DNC.

Now back to the discussion.

Originally posted by whodey
So moonbats are running around saying that Trump is violating the Constitution by wanting to stop Muslim immigration to the US. Even the GOP is calling him to drop out saying he is violating the Constitution.

How so?

Unconstitutional would be locking up American Muslims only because they are Muslim when the US is at war with Muslims in the Middle East. ...[text shortened]... ng from a region at war with the US. This is what Trump wants to do. Trump is who Obama opposes.

Trump was proposing that US citizens of the Muslim faith who might be travelling overseas not be allowed to return!

You think that is "constitutional"?

EDIT: I guess he "clarified" his original remarks to say Muslim citizens of the US could reenter. He did not explain how a complete travel ban was compatible with numerous international and bilateral treaties regarding travel, however.

Originally posted by whodey
Hillary Clinton has promised to excise “illegal immigrants” from her vocabulary after being called out for using the insensitive term.

In a Tuesday afternoon Facebook Q&A hosted by Noticias Telemundo, journalist and filmmaker Jose Antonio Vargas asked:


Madame Secretary, in speaking at a campaign stop about immigration reform, you recently referred to ...[text shortened]... our diversity makes us stronger as a nation—it’s something to be proud of, celebrate, and defend

So what? What does her decision not to use a particular term have to do with anything?

Originally posted by no1marauder
Trump was proposing that US citizens of the Muslim faith who might be travelling overseas not be allowed to return!

You think that is "constitutional"?

The US is at war with ISIS. This is why he is proposing this.

However, that is another discussion, is it not? It sure beats FDR locking up Japanese American just because they were of Japanese descent, but I digress.

Again, what is unconstitutional about prohibiting immigrants from coming from Syria to the US?

Originally posted by whodey
I have no wish to defend the NAZI party, which is why I oppose the DNC.

Now back to the discussion.

So, there are no opinions of the Nazis in that article (it is easy to access the original) that you would defend?

Since they seemed to agree with you, that is part of the discussion. (Unless you want to take your ball and go home.)

EDIT: Once again, I have given you the opportunity to distinguish your views from those Nazis. For God's sake, take it!

Originally posted by no1marauder
So what? What does her decision not to use a particular term have to do with anything?

The term illegal immigrant is being framed as hate speech.

That is offensive to me. That is discouraging people from opposing immigration for any reason for fear of being labeled a hater or having something worse happen to them, like losing their job.

Originally posted by vistesd
So, there are no opinions of the Nazis in that article (it is easy to access the original) that you would defend?

Since they seemed to agree with you, that is part of the discussion. (Unless you want to take your ball and go home.)

EDIT: Once again, I have given you the opportunity to distinguish your views from those Nazis. For God's sake, take it!

Nazis oppose immigration because they are racists.

I am not a racist, and this is not why I oppose immigration. For example, FDR singling out Japanese Americans because of their race is abhorrent to me, and akin to Nazi ways of thinking.

Now can we continue?