Unanswered questions, Clear the slate for 2024

1) Provide the lie told by Tucker, the first word of the sentence, the middle words, and last word of the sentence. (Suzianne)
2) Re the question on the Lia monster swimming with girls: Sonhouse approves of it. However. He was non-responsive to my query…”Would you be in favor of it if he was swimming against your daughter?” (Question was asked 12 times over 4 months)
3). Is it possible for there to be a welfare state and an open border at the same time? (Asked specifically of Marauder, who says that he did answer the question. I looked back to his posts, nothing there. He did write something irrelevant about the USA, but the USA was not the subject of the question.)

Please feel free to provide more unanswered questions, which have caused anguish!
As an added attraction, ask some questions which cannot be answered by either conservatives or by liberals . ( The ones above are lib-toxic, as an example)

@averagejoe1 said
1) Provide the lie told by Tucker, the first word of the sentence, the middle words, and last word of the sentence. (Suzianne)
2) Re the question on the Lia monster swimming with girls: Sonhouse approves of it. However. He was non-responsive to my query…”Would you be in favor of it if he was swimming against your daughter?” (Question was asked 12 times over 4 months)
...[text shortened]... be answered by either conservatives or by liberals . ( The ones above are lib-toxic, as an example)

Of course, I could follow that up with many questions like:

What do you think an "open border" means?

What do you think a "welfare state" means?

Do you think the United States has the first or is the second?

Could you give examples of a country with an "open border"?

Why do you think the concept of an "open border" is incompatible with the concept of a "welfare state"?

And on and on. But maybe you should have explored that subject in the thread already cited rather than simply falsely claiming I refused to answer a question I already did.

@no1marauder said
Of course, I could follow that up with many questions like:

What do you think an "open border" means?

What do you think a "welfare state" means?

Do you think the United States has the first or is the second?

Could you give examples of a country with an "open border"?

Why do you think the concept of an "open border" is incompatible with the concept of a "wel ...[text shortened]... read already cited rather than simply falsely claiming I refused to answer a question I already did.

@no1marauder said
Of course, I could follow that up with many questions like:

What do you think an "open border" means?

What do you think a "welfare state" means?

Do you think the United States has the first or is the second?

Could you give examples of a country with an "open border"?

Why do you think the concept of an "open border" is incompatible with the concept of a "wel ...[text shortened]... read already cited rather than simply falsely claiming I refused to answer a question I already did.

@wajoma said
No1 said:

"What do you think an "open border" means?"

NZ/Aus is a good example, I'm in Aus now working, no visa required, no limit. If tomorrow you decide, as an Australian you want to go to NZ for work (or not work) go to the airport and get on a plane, it's that simple, and vicey versy.

Could Australia which is a strong welfare state i.e. health, education, ...[text shortened]... ns of hard working Indonesians, turning them into parasites as it has so many NZers and Australians.

@averagejoe1 said
Good morning everyone. I invite the group to critique the answer here. Seems to me that a yes or no are the only actual possible answers, so what is going on here?
Does it ask me a question? What?

@no1marauder said
Why exactly do you think such a policy only works with predominately white folks?

It has been shown by many economic studies that immigration has a net positive effect on economic growth. What has internal domestic policies have to do with it? The modern welfare State, assuming you mean one including the type of social programs adopted mostly in Europe, has been shown ...[text shortened]... (of course, no nation really has an "open border" but I guess we have to pretend to make AJ happy).

@wajoma said
The question was does the welfare state allow open and free immigration. It does not, a resounding, it does not.

My position: let peaceful people cross borders freely. You cannot be considered a peaceful person if you enlist the services of goobermint thugs to make the residents of the country you just moved to pay for your healthcare, education and unemployment benefit. ...[text shortened]... xample in the post immediately preceding. Travel within the countries of the EU is another example.

The realization in economics that markets simply aren't efficient in the real world as ended any serious claim that laissez faire capitalism is a rational type of economic organization. This might fly a bit over your and Joe's head but:

". Adam Smith’s presumption—that markets would lead the economy, as if by an invisible hand, to societal well-being—was reversed. The first welfare theorem, that every competitive market economy was efficient, was turned on its head. Economists had always understood that markets are often not competitive; they understood too that when there are externalities, they would not be efficient. Greenwald and Stiglitz (1986, 1988) showed that even competitive economies were almost always inefficient, so long as there were imperfections (asymmetries) of information and incomplete risk markets—that is, always.10 These market failures were different from the kinds of market failures that economists had focused on following Arrow and Debreu’s work, such as imperfections of competition and externalities, which presumably could be easily identified and corrected. Externalities, for
instance, could be addressed through Pigouvian corrective taxes; anti-competitive
behavior, through anti-trust policies. The pervasive market failures identified by Arnott, Rothschild, Greenwald, Geanakoplos, Polemarchakis and Stiglitz could not so easily be addressed.11 This line of research has thus established that markets are efficient only under highly restrictive conditions, which were essentially never satisfied; hence the new presumption that markets are not efficient."

https://rooseveltinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/RI-Welfare-State-21st-Century-201706.pdf

@no1marauder said
Your definition of what a "peaceful person" is non-standard and ludicrous, based on your extremist fanatical devotion to a philosophy - laissez faire - that A) Doesn't work and B) Is entirely reliant on government force in the first place.

@wajoma said
Yes, new immigrants relying on goobermint force to make others pay for their healthcare, education and unemployment benefit are not peaceful people. I agree they are "entirely reliant on goobermint" thugs "in the first place."

They could say: "No thanks, we don't want any looted wealth, we'll stand on our own two feet".

@no1marauder said
How could any person, never mind immigrants, do that when all the natural resources of any country were "looted"in the first place?

An economic system is supposed to serve the People, not just the few wealthy who have appropriated natural resources originally owned by all by government force. Immigration has undoubted economic benefits; short term investment in recent ...[text shortened]... ants so they can settle is just a common sense policy leading towards increased economic prosperity.

@wajoma said
I already answered this, you just don't like the answer. Aus can't have the same immigration policy with Indonesia that it has with NZ because within in a year there'd be a million Indonesians here with their hands out, and that's only Indonesia**, let's factor in Africa, and a whole bunch of SE Asian countries. Your beloved welfare 'free' handouts is the reason there's an im ...[text shortened]... has been pointed out to you, or is it the first time you've given it the consideration it deserves.

@no1marauder said
Your bigoted assumption is that all these people from non-white countries would just want to go to Australia for a hand out while good white folks like yourself from other mostly white folk countries are going there to work.

Sorry, that's still racist no matter what names you call people who point this out to you.

Call me skeptical that "millions of people" would m ...[text shortened]... advantage to the domestic workforce, but few western countries are experiencing such conditions now.