US installed Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine

@cliff-mashburn said
@Mott-The-Hoople
Yeah I'm not going to bother putting the YT video of him on the news bragging about it to a bunch of news/political wheels.
No point to it, they'll just claim he means something else.

Oh. Please share!

@shavixmir said
So? And So?

The former doesn't mean the party is fascist.
The latter doesn't make nationalists and fascists nazis. And certainly doesn't mean the Ukranian government is neo-nazi.

Andriy Parubiy and party leader Oleh Tyahnybok are not Neo-Nazis the US government supported?

@djuiceua said
@Metal-Brain
Parubiy was a member of at least five different parties. He is now an MP from the pro-European party.
Tyagnybok is the head of a political party that is barely gaining 1%. Now he is not even an MP.

What kind of government are we talking about?)

You didn't answer my question.

Do Andriy Parubiy and party leader Oleh Tyahnybok have any government positions of power?

@kevcvs57 said
Stop lying and stop being stupid.
The Russian neo Nazis invaded and annexed part of the Ukraine because it dared to break away from the kremlins grip and now they are about to invade again.
Russia will carry on invading themselves westward until they reach the Atlantic and twots like you will keep softening the blow and excusing them with propaganda and disinformation.

So you do not deny the US is supporting Neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

@suzianne said
In other words, do your own research, for once, instead of relying on lying idiots.

Prove my sources are lying.
You are clearly having difficulty doing that. Watch that blood pressure. Don't stress out too much trying to find proof that doesn't exist.

@no1marauder said
Come on; this is a bit of melodramatic propaganda, isn't it? The Russians aren't looking to "march to the Atlantic"; they are looking to stop the advance of NATO to the Urals though.

The Russian government undoubtedly reacted violently to the illegal coup which overthrew the elected Ukrainian President in 2014 but the West's stubborn insistence on pushing a military al ...[text shortened]...

There is blame on both sides and it would do both of them well to come to an equitable agreement.

You know this how?
They’ve already demanded a return to the Warsaw Pact ‘sphere of influence’ that includes Poland and East Germany. They want to be the dominant power in Europe and this is how they will achieve it. They are banking on the west not having the gonads to have a hot war with them.
Or possibly naive people underestimating their ambitions.

@kevcvs57 said
You know this how?
They’ve already demanded a return to the Warsaw Pact ‘sphere of influence’ that includes Poland and East Germany. They want to be the dominant power in Europe and this is how they will achieve it. They are banking on the west not having the gonads to have a hot war with them.
Or possibly naive people underestimating their ambitions.

If Russia gained control of Alaska by installing Neo-Nazis in power to be their puppet government would the US take Alaska back by military force if necessary to get Alaska back?

You know the answer is yes.

@metal-brain said
If Russia gained control of Alaska by installing Neo-Nazis in power to be their puppet government would the US take Alaska back by military force if necessary to get Alaska back?

You know the answer is yes.

Even disregarding your original mistake in this thread: Alaska is a US state. Ukraine is an independent country, not a Russian oblast. The two are not the same situation. The USA would be defending its own territory; your mate Putin is stealing someone else's.

@metal-brain said
If Russia gained control of Alaska by installing Neo-Nazis in power to be their puppet government would the US take Alaska back by military force if necessary to get Alaska back?

You know the answer is yes.

And you know that analogy is false so why make it.
The PEOPLE of Ukraine rose up against a corrupt neo fascist Kremlin puppet regime and overthrew it at great danger to themselves, and now the neo fascist Kremlin is about to crush those people under its tank tracks so they can reinstall a neo nazi puppet regime.
When they’ve succeeded at that the Baltic states will be next and with their flanks secured they will head west. Kremlin trolls cannot lie your way out of this one, Putin’s game is simply too obvious.

@shallow-blue said
Even disregarding your original mistake in this thread: Alaska is a US state. Ukraine is an independent country, not a Russian oblast. The two are not the same situation. The USA would be defending its own territory; your mate Putin is stealing someone else's.

You mean like Iraq? Stealing is fine as long as we are doing the stealing?

The Ukraine was part of the Russian Federation. What if Russia took Japan or the Philippines? Would the US just let it happen?

@kevcvs57 said
And you know that analogy is false so why make it.
The PEOPLE of Ukraine rose up against a corrupt neo fascist Kremlin puppet regime and overthrew it at great danger to themselves, and now the neo fascist Kremlin is about to crush those people under its tank tracks so they can reinstall a neo nazi puppet regime.
When they’ve succeeded at that the Baltic states will be next ...[text shortened]... l head west. Kremlin trolls cannot lie your way out of this one, Putin’s game is simply too obvious.

"The PEOPLE of Ukraine rose up against a corrupt neo fascist Kremlin puppet regime and overthrew it "

You are making that up. STOP LYING!

@metal-brain said
"The PEOPLE of Ukraine rose up against a corrupt neo fascist Kremlin puppet regime and overthrew it "

You are making that up. STOP LYING!

No every one of your assertions in this thread is BS, your a liar and a scumbag Russian troll.
The Ukrainian uprising went live on TV you stupid clown we could see the Russian supporters of the neo fascist puppet regime firing on the crowd of unarmed demonstrators. Do you expect us to believe that the might of Russia got displaced by a minority of the Ukrainian people. They left because the majority of Ukrainians wanted them gone and finally picked up their weapons to underscore their desire for true sovereignty.
The Russian response was to invade and colonise a sovereign state, they are still there and looking to take the whole of Ukraine by force
Why do you persistently lie about stuff that is in the public domain for all to see with their own eyes?
Is it an illness?
Putin is the head of a classic fascist regime that thinks nothing of murdering dissenters at home and abroad. He doesn’t even try to hide his deeds, he laughs up his sleeve whilst scum like you try to convince us that it’s the dead reporters and political opponents that are the fascist’s.

@kevcvs57 said
And you know that analogy is false so why make it.
The PEOPLE of Ukraine rose up against a corrupt neo fascist Kremlin puppet regime and overthrew it at great danger to themselves, and now the neo fascist Kremlin is about to crush those people under its tank tracks so they can reinstall a neo nazi puppet regime.
When they’ve succeeded at that the Baltic states will be next ...[text shortened]... l head west. Kremlin trolls cannot lie your way out of this one, Putin’s game is simply too obvious.

That "corrupt neo Fascist Kremlin puppet" was the elected President who still had months to go in his term. The coup against him was illegal under the Ukranian Constitution.

Let's get the facts straight.

@no1marauder said
That "corrupt neo Fascist Kremlin puppet" was the elected President who still had months to go in his term. The coup against him was illegal under the Ukranian Constitution.

Let's get the facts straight.

You clearly only believe in people power when your the people.
Are you claiming that the sitting president wasn’t a Russian puppet.
Wiki
“ In November 2013 a wave of large scale protests (known as Euromaidan) erupted in response to president Yanukovych's refusal to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union at a meeting of the Eastern Partnership in Vilnius, Lithuania. These protests continued for months. In February 2014 clashes between the protestors and the riot police became violent, and resulted in the deaths of nearly 130 people, including 18 police officers.[29] On February 21, an agreement between president Yanukovych and the leaders of the parliamentary opposition was signed that called for early elections and the formation of an interim unity government. The following day, Yanukovych fled from the capital ahead of an impeachment vote.[30] The protesters proceeded to take control of the capital buildings. On the same day, the parliament declared that Yanukovych was relieved of duty in a 328-to-0 vote (out of the Rada’s 450 members).[31”
Yeah let’s stick with the facts
You’ll never guess where Yanukovych fled to.

@kevcvs57 said
You clearly only believe in people power when your the people.
Are you claiming that the sitting president wasn’t a Russian puppet.
Wiki
“ In November 2013 a wave of large scale protests (known as Euromaidan) erupted in response to president Yanukovych's refusal to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union at a meeting of the Eastern Pa ...[text shortened]... a’s 450 members).[31”
Yeah let’s stick with the facts
You’ll never guess where Yanukovych fled to.

You are right for a change, but only because nobody invades a country unless they intend to control it. The Philippines is controlled by the USA. Cuba was, but control was lost to Castro.

Japan is under the control of the USA. So is South Korea. Iraq too. Oil is too important. Don't you think the UK would protect it's defacto colonies as well? They fought for the Falkland Islands.

Nobody invades unless a puppet government is put in place. They don't always stay in place though. The Shah of Iran, for example.