@averagejoe1 saidI do believe that vaccines are the wrong issue to argue over loss of freedom because the ability to have citizen free from sickness and the overburdening costs of missed work/ school and medical care is also a freedom issue.
Frankly, I agree with you . A Biden-type, Nanny kind of government will prevail, and and you will be correct with your assessment. I have said that many times in many forum debates, that the liberal causes will win in the end. Obama's promise, to transform America, has been underway for some time.
To me, this is a loss of Freedom, of course. And Liberty.
That is a ...[text shortened]... h your children that it is OK to be subjective to government, which of course, is a loss of liberty?
@AverageJoe1
So why do you wear seat belts? You have the freedom to say screw seat belts.
What is different from that V Vaxxing?
My guess is you wear seatbelts religiously.
You talk about tiny government.
Which follows EXACTLY the repub line, we don't need no stinking federal government.
We prefer there to be instead of the US UNITED states, We being ultrarightwingers, It looks to me like they want not one country but FIFTY countries each with their own laws, slavery coming back?
The reason we need big government has to do with the FACT that big corps craps on US citizens every change they get.
Like dumping toxins into rivers where I assume you think that would NEVER happen HERE in the good old USA.
But I figure you are WAY ok with companies dumping toxins into our rivers.
Just one small example of why we need big government.
Without big government, big corps would have ALREADY destroyed half the environment and start working on the second half.
But you won't comment on any of that stuff, just Sonhouse is on a roll again or some other POS statement.
@sonhouse saidSeat belts are not injected into your body and they are not gene therapy.
@AverageJoe1
So why do you wear seat belts? You have the freedom to say screw seat belts.
What is different from that V Vaxxing?
My guess is you wear seatbelts religiously.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-22-vaccine-scientists-want-your-groceries-mrna-vaccines.html
I suppose you support putting it in our food. There is the self spreading vaccine too. Do you support that too?
@Metal-Brain
You really are out in left field. WAY far out to the right of left field.
You find some idiot pushing some stupid deal like sneaking vax in food lines or some such.
Not going to happen. But of COURSE you are so blindly paranoid you would believe it anyway, since you lost the ability to think for yourself.
@sonhouse saidAre you claiming nobody is working on that goal?
@Metal-Brain
You really are out in left field. WAY far out to the right of left field.
You find some idiot pushing some stupid deal like sneaking vax in food lines or some such.
Not going to happen. But of COURSE you are so blindly paranoid you would believe it anyway, since you lost the ability to think for yourself.
Did you read this part?
"Ideally, a single plant would produce enough mRNA to vaccinate a single person,” Juan Pablo Giraldo, lead researcher and associate professor in UCR’s Department of Botany and Plant Sciences. “We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens,” he added. “Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”
Giraldo strives to demonstrate that DNA containing mRNA vaccines can successfully be integrated into plant cells. To do this, the researchers intend to alter the chloroplast of the plant cell. The chloroplast takes in the sun’s energy and converts it to sugar and other molecules that the plant needs in order to grow. The scientists want to interfere with this natural process and instruct the cytoplasm to generate spike proteins and other foreign molecules that can be introduced as antigens into humans."
I suppose you think Juan Pablo Giraldo doesn't exist. Why don't you call him and ask. He is the lead researcher and associate professor in UCR’s Department of Botany and Plant Sciences.
@AverageJoe1
All well and good but the low IQ bunch REFUSE vax AND government pressure.
Not a good way to kill a virus.
@sonhouse saidYou are so damn ignorant!
@AverageJoe1
All well and good but the low IQ bunch REFUSE vax AND government pressure.
Not a good way to kill a virus.
The gene vaccines do not stop the spread and they certainly don't kill the virus.
Tell me Mr. open minded, does Juan Pablo Giraldo, lead researcher and associate professor in UCR’s Department of Botany and Plant Sciences exist? Are you in denial of his existence? Yes or no?
@Metal-Brain
When you lower the virus load to the point where it cannot cause illness I say that KILLED that virus.
But the IDIOTS who think freedom is worth more than saving lives don't give a RATS ASS whether those ill with covid live or die.
Just another indication of WHY they are idiots.
@sonhouse saidThe opposite is true.
@Metal-Brain
When you lower the virus load to the point where it cannot cause illness I say that KILLED that virus.
But the IDIOTS who think freedom is worth more than saving lives don't give a RATS ASS whether those ill with covid live or die.
Just another indication of WHY they are idiots.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-healthcare-workers-threat-unvaccinated-patients-co-workers/
You are the idiot!
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-22-vaccine-scientists-want-your-groceries-mrna-vaccines.html
Juan Pablo Giraldo, lead researcher and associate professor in UCR’s Department of Botany and Plant Sciences exists. You are a science denier!
@quackquack saidIf you really want to deal with such issues then we need to m as ke all drugs illegal and test all people for drug use.
I do believe that vaccines are the wrong issue to argue over loss of freedom because the ability to have citizen free from sickness and the overburdening costs of missed work/ school and medical care is also a freedom issue.
@metal-brain said"They" talk a lot, don't they?
They want to put spike proteins in your food.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-22-vaccine-scientists-want-your-groceries-mrna-vaccines.html
Buy your garden seeds now before they become expensive.