What does "your side" get wrong?

@Metal-Brain said
Canada is another country. You contradicted yourself.
If you leave a country you enter another unless you are in international waters.

Read more carefully.

A passport is not needed to leave the U.S. It's needed to enter another country. They're not the same thing.

You need permission to leave North Korea; you don't need permission to leave America.

NK soldiers are not volunteering. Nothing is voluntary there; it's a cult lead by a despot.

@Metal-Brain said
North Koreans work abroad all the time.

Only with government permission.

@spruce112358 said
Only with government permission.

Isn't that what a passport does? You have to apply to leave the country. You cannot go to Canada if you are convicted criminal. Right?

@vivify said
Read more carefully.

A passport is not needed to leave the U.S. It's needed to enter another country. They're not the same thing.

You need permission to leave North Korea; you don't need permission to leave America.

NK soldiers are not volunteering. Nothing is voluntary there; it's a cult lead by a despot.

You cannot leave a country without entering another unless you are in international waters.

@Metal-Brain said
You cannot leave a country without entering another unless you are in international waters.

You don't need permission to leave your house but you do need permission to enter someone else's home, right? It's the same when leaving the U.S.

In North Korea, citizens are not permitted to leave, even if they have permission to enter another country.

@vivify said
You don't need permission to leave your house but you do need permission to enter someone else's home, right? It's the same when leaving the U.S.

In North Korea, citizens are not permitted to leave, even if they have permission to enter another country.

"In North Korea, citizens are not permitted to leave"

That is not true. Citizens are permitted to leave all of the time. Mostly to work abroad.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-14/north-korea-sending-new-batches-of-its-workers-abroad-us-envoy-says

@Metal-Brain said
"In North Korea, citizens are not permitted to leave"

That is not true. Citizens are permitted to leave all of the time. Mostly to work abroad.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-14/north-korea-sending-new-batches-of-its-workers-abroad-us-envoy-says

That's not permission to leave on their own free will. NK is sending workers abroad to make money for the government:

https://time.com/6695185/north-korea-workers-abroad-human-rights/

NK citizens cannot *choose* to leave.

@vivify said
That's not permission to leave on their own freewill. NK is sending workers abroad to make money for the government:

https://time.com/6695185/north-korea-workers-abroad-human-rights/

NK citizens cannot *choose* to leave.

You have digressed. What does any of this have to do with what we were talking about? NK troops are in Russia. They obviously had permission to leave. You just had a problem with finding out they were volunteers and not forced to fight Ukraine.

Kim Jong Un had no need to force people to join Russia in the fight.

@Metal-Brain said
You have digressed. What does any of this have to do with what we were talking about?

"I suspected that those North Korean troops were volunteers. I was right. Nobody forced them to go." ---Metal Brain

I was pointing out your statement is wrong. NK is dictatorship who forces citizens to do whatever the government wants and denies their free will.

@vivify said
"I suspected that those North Korean troops were volunteers. I was right. Nobody forced them to go." ---Metal Brain

I was pointing out your statement is wrong.

My statement was correct. They volunteered. Nobody forced them to go.

@Metal-Brain said
My statement was correct. They volunteered. Nobody forced them to go.

NK is dictatorship who forces citizens to do whatever the government wants and denies their free will. They don't get to choose.

@vivify said
NK is dictatorship who forces citizens to do whatever the government wants and denies their free will. They don't get to choose.

Neither do you. You were denied a vote for Kamala and the other democrat candidates. What free will? You did not get to choose. Kamala was selected by the privately owned corporation called the DNC.

@Metal-Brain said
Neither do you. You were denied a vote for Kamala and the other democrat candidates. What free will? You did not get to choose. Kamala was selected by the privately owned corporation called the DNC.

Denied? My neighbor voted for the Easter bunny.

@vivify said
NK is dictatorship who forces citizens to do whatever the government wants and denies their free will. They don't get to choose.

https://libertyinnorthkorea.org/learn-nk-challenges

"To protect the power of its propaganda and ideology, the regime attempts to isolate the North Korean people from the outside world."

Physical Isolation

It’s illegal for North Koreans to leave their country without the government’s permission. North Koreans who do attempt to leave the country illegally and are caught can face severe consequences including torture, forced labor, and life-imprisonment in a political prison camp.

Those who are allowed to travel abroad – like diplomats, elite students, recruited workers, and athletes – are monitored closely and must attend special ideological debriefs once they return to North Korea.
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"Before we left North Korea, our team was warned not to be swayed by the capitalism we would see in the outside world. And we were told specifically not to meet or talk with South Korean students at the contest." – Jeongyol Kim, competed in the International Math Olympiad before defecting

North Koreans also rarely have a chance to talk with foreigners who travel to North Korea, and even then there is normally a minder present.

@sh76 said
Jews (especially religious ones) need to live in communities with lots of other Jews, so moving to small towns is not usually an option.

NY because most Jews landed on Ellis Island and there was no reason to go very far. So they set up shop in the lower east side and south Bronx. When those communities fell apart, they simply moved out to Brooklyn or the suburbs.

Californi ...[text shortened]... en West Palm and Miami Beach, the density of Jews as a percentage of the population might rival NYC.

California because LA and the Bay area have always been hotbeds for industries that Jews do well in.

That doesn’t sound like a place that it’s hard to get things done in. Why not just move those industries to Texas or Florida?

I submit to you the possibility that these industries are in CA because they like the legal/political/economic system of this State.