What has Israel done for us?

@shavixmir said
Hamas set up schools, playgrounds, etc.
They invested in the Palestinian people. That’s why people voted for them.

and that makes them NOT terrorists?

you are a fool if you think hamas cares about palestinians, what ever a palestinian is.

Maybe you can define what a palestinian is?

@shavixmir said
If you are shooting at someone and there’s a kid in the vicinity, it is targetting children.

And as I have mentioned umpteen times on many topics, I condemn the murdering of children, no matter who’s doing it.

No, that is not targeting children. Know what a word means before using it.

to aim an attack, or a bullet, bomb, etc., at a particular object, place, or person:

@shavixmir said
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/09/how-the-hamas-attack-on-the-supernova-festival-in-israel-unfolded

Yes. Everybody is sure. Because there’s bloody footage of it happening.

What footage? That link does not have any footage of people being killed.
Show me the video.

@rajk999 said
It is going to be a bloodbath or bath of blood, whichever you prefer. Maybe Israel might bring out the big guns instead of sending in troops. Their aim is to level that place. I hope they give the people time to get out before doing that though.

Why do you hope they will get out? Is it really for their safety or is it because you hope Israel will never let them return so they can steal that land too?

@metal-brain said
What footage? That link does not have any footage of people being killed.
Show me the video.

you are a nut case🙄

@rajk999 said
For them, yes. Are you forgetting that this is a war? I thought you knew that. Are you saying Israel should allow the states around them to have nuclear capability? I think they are smart and know their survival depends on controlling arms proliferation in that area.

Israel was not at war with Iraq when they bombed the nuclear power plant and it was not a nuclear weapon. Are nuclear power plants not allowed anymore?
If a nation wants nuclear power they should be bombed? Why didn't Japan's nuclear power plants get bombed?

You are not making any sense at all. Iraq was an ally of the USA at the time that nuclear power plant was bombed. Reagan publicly condemned Israel for it, though he did nothing about it other than that.

@rajk999 said
Correct. If Israel attacks civilians they are equally wrong .. and Im pretty sure they are guilty as well. The Palestinian cause should be a 2 state solution. But, somehow I dont think that is what they want. They want either the complete annihiation of Israel, which is what they pray for, which is what is in their charter, which is what the preach to the children in the schools, or they want Israel to move out and go live elsewhere.

Israel does not want a 2 state solution. That is why Israel funded Hamas, to divide the Palestinians and prevent a Palestinian state.

@metal-brain said
Israel was not at war with Iraq when they bombed the nuclear power plant and it was not a nuclear weapon. Are nuclear power plants not allowed anymore?
If a nation wants nuclear power they should be bombed? Why didn't Japan's nuclear power plants get bombed?

You are not making any sense at all. Iraq was an ally of the USA at the time that nuclear power plant was bombed. Reagan publicly condemned Israel for it, though he did nothing about it other than that.

I think your view of that region is very naive. Those countries have always been at war since 1948. Yes Israel is/was absolutely right to remove any nuclear proliferation in that region.

@metal-brain said
Israel does not want a 2 state solution. That is why Israel funded Hamas, to divide the Palestinians and prevent a Palestinian state.

Read up the history. In 1948 the UN adopted the British proposal of a 2-state solution and Israel accepted. The Palestinians refused. They wanted one state controlled by them only. The British then left them. War ensued and Israel won.

How does Israel funding Hamas divide the Palestinians. Are Palestinians so easy to fool? If so then they are not able to govern themselves and they rightly cannot have a country of their own.

They really are very stupid people. In 70 years they have acheived nothing, except their own destruction. They have failed as a people. Oh .. sorry they acheived one thing .. apparently they taught their kids to hate Americans and Jews.

@zahlanzi said
sonhouse i have always like your posts so excuse me but this dumb and ignorant. Nobody is saying Hamas was justified. Nobody is saying Hamas is anything but a terrorist organization and they should all be lined up against the wall.

In fact, if Israel wouldn't have bombed and killed 4000+ Palestinians half of them children we would have talked about those 266 kids i stead. ...[text shortened]... come back once we destroy the enemy we failed to destroy for decades"


I am disappointed in you

No group of Israeli soldiers ever walked up to a bunch of Palestinian people or kids playing or hanging out and opened fire, killing them, capturing the rest, and holding them hostage. No group of Jews ever strapped bombs to themselves and detonated them in restaurants and school buses. That never happened. If it did, then please post a link so I can read it.

The methods used by Palestinians are low. Hamas, the PLO, and prior administrations have hidden their weapons, offices, and HQs under schools, hospitals, and residential areas, using these areas to attack Israel. These are evil people. Hamas does not care about its own people. This fact was verified many times by independent observers. So the deaths of civilians are incidental. Civilians are not the target.

If you claim that you cannot see the difference, you are lying.

@rajk999 said
I think your view of that region is very naive. Those countries have always been at war since 1948. Yes Israel is/was absolutely right to remove any nuclear proliferation in that region.

Israel had nukes. Shouldn't their nuclear power plants have been bombed before they could use them to make Plutonium? Israel is in that region.

@rajk999 said
Read up the history. In 1948 the UN adopted the British proposal of a 2-state solution and Israel accepted. The Palestinians refused. They wanted one state controlled by them only. The British then left them. War ensued and Israel won.

How does Israel funding Hamas divide the Palestinians. Are Palestinians so easy to fool? If so then they are not able to govern themse ...[text shortened]... Oh .. sorry they acheived one thing .. apparently they taught their kids to hate Americans and Jews.

Why did the Palestinians refuse? Israel obviously wanted something in return. What was it?

@rajk999 said
No group of Israeli soldiers ever walked up to a bunch of Palestinian people or kids playing or hanging out and opened fire, killing them, capturing the rest, and holding them hostage. No group of Jews ever strapped bombs to themselves and detonated them in restaurants and school buses. That never happened. If it did, then please post a link so I can read it.

The method ...[text shortened]... al. Civilians are not the target.

If you claim that you cannot see the difference, you are lying.

You are wrong.

Two of the operations for which the Irgun is best known are the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out together with Lehi on 9 April 1948.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun?fbclid=IwAR27uT4EXoZOJ_4pflHj9VkSSXyyWfWxpOhkgg3-jaimf7PjkJY2YyotV_U

@metal-brain said
Israel had nukes. Shouldn't their nuclear power plants have been bombed before they could use them to make Plutonium? Israel is in that region.

No.