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@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
So for you it was just fine Hamas killed 266 unarmed kids at a music fest, slaughtered them. Yep, those kids were SO dangerous they had to be assassinated.
Are you sure that is true? Those kids would be worth a lot more alive than dead to Hamas. I don't believe it. It doesn't make any sense to not take prisoners.

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@metal-brain said
Then condemn both for it, but don't say anyone is targeting children. Nobody is trying to earn a reputation for being a baby killer. What possible motive would there be for that?

What we have here is too much hate on both sides and Israel starting a ground war will only make the hate worse. Furthermore, I believe it is a trap. There are all sorts of tunnels filled with ...[text shortened]... easy for Israel to pull off despite all of those advanced weapons they have. It will be a bloodbath.
If you are shooting at someone and there’s a kid in the vicinity, it is targetting children.

And as I have mentioned umpteen times on many topics, I condemn the murdering of children, no matter who’s doing it.

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@metal-brain said
Are you sure that is true? Those kids would be worth a lot more alive than dead to Hamas. I don't believe it. It doesn't make any sense to not take prisoners.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/09/how-the-hamas-attack-on-the-supernova-festival-in-israel-unfolded

Yes. Everybody is sure. Because there’s bloody footage of it happening.


@shavixmir
As a musician myself, I am especially disgusted by this barbaric act, pure evil.


@sonhouse said
@shavixmir
As a musician myself, I am especially disgusted by this barbaric act, pure evil.
Well, to be quite honest, if they were playing techno house, I wouldn’t blame Hamas.


@shavixmir said
Well, to be quite honest, if they were playing techno house, I wouldn’t blame Hamas.
Lol!

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@shavixmir said
You do realise you can support the Palestinian cause, but condemn the actions of Hamas. Nobody should be targetting civilians, especially children.

What the hell’s wrong with you?
who was it that elected hamas to be their leaders?

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@metal-brain said
"Those looking from the outside might condemn such a relationship but the thing is, it works. "

Because Israel bombed a nuclear facility? That is your idea of a productive working relationship? If Jihadists came to the USA and bombed nuclear power plants here in the USA would you consider that productive of them? It works, right?
For them, yes. Are you forgetting that this is a war? I thought you knew that. Are you saying Israel should allow the states around them to have nuclear capability? I think they are smart and know their survival depends on controlling arms proliferation in that area.


@metal-brain said
@Rajk999
The Israeli occupation has been exposed to have been covertly sending weapons to Ukraine after it was pressured by the United States to do so.

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/israel-pressured-to-deliver-million-in-strategic-materials-t

Israel funds the war in Ukraine. Is that what works? Sending weapons to Nazis in Ukraine?
Yes.

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@shavixmir said
You do realise you can support the Palestinian cause, but condemn the actions of Hamas. Nobody should be targetting civilians, especially children.

What the hell’s wrong with you?
Correct. If Israel attacks civilians they are equally wrong .. and Im pretty sure they are guilty as well. The Palestinian cause should be a 2 state solution. But, somehow I dont think that is what they want. They want either the complete annihiation of Israel, which is what they pray for, which is what is in their charter, which is what the preach to the children in the schools, or they want Israel to move out and go live elsewhere.

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@metal-brain said
Then condemn both for it, but don't say anyone is targeting children. Nobody is trying to earn a reputation for being a baby killer. What possible motive would there be for that?

What we have here is too much hate on both sides and Israel starting a ground war will only make the hate worse. Furthermore, I believe it is a trap. There are all sorts of tunnels filled with ...[text shortened]... easy for Israel to pull off despite all of those advanced weapons they have. It will be a bloodbath.
It is going to be a bloodbath or bath of blood, whichever you prefer. Maybe Israel might bring out the big guns instead of sending in troops. Their aim is to level that place. I hope they give the people time to get out before doing that though.


@mott-the-hoople said
who was it that elected hamas to be their leaders?
Hamas set up schools, playgrounds, etc.
They invested in the Palestinian people. That’s why people voted for them.



@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
So for you it was just fine Hamas killed 266 unarmed kids at a music fest, slaughtered them. Yep, those kids were SO dangerous they had to be assassinated.
sonhouse i have always like your posts so excuse me but this dumb and ignorant. Nobody is saying Hamas was justified. Nobody is saying Hamas is anything but a terrorist organization and they should all be lined up against the wall.

In fact, if Israel wouldn't have bombed and killed 4000+ Palestinians half of them children we would have talked about those 266 kids i stead.

No atrocity justifies an even bigger atrocity. Israel has the right to defend itself but this is not defense it is terror and revenge. And since we already agreed hamas are animals, it won't even make Israel safe.
All this accomplishes is making orphans and parents who have lost their children and homeless, starving palestinians who will more than replenish any hamas fighters they might have lost.

Israel knows this. They know they won't be destroying Hamas with these bombings. They are just using those 266 kids as an excuse to drive the Palestinians further back. "Evacuate and we will totally allow you to come back once we destroy the enemy we failed to destroy for decades"


I am disappointed in you


@metal-brain said
No. The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

https://new.thecradle.co/articles/over-1000-israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque

Both sides kill civilians so this is not an ethical competition. Do you condemn the Aqsa Mosque attack?
a there you go.

i was hoping you have stumbled into some decency accidentally and landed on the right side of an argument for once.

I was confused but hopeful.

I am no longer confused. You really are a disgusting human being.

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