What if photo IDs are available for all citizens tomorrow?!?

@AverageJoe1 said
My answer is that if there had been cameras, they would have thought of this themselves. The Brits could have been infiltrating northe of Trenton, and G Washington himself would. have instituted it to keep the Brits out
i dont tink I can keep doing this.

Little Feller. 86% want photo id. 34 states have it. Go out with some pub friends and throw darts. Just liberals, though, so y'all can feel unthreatened..

George Washington knew that there was a big difference between a foreign military and immigrants wanting to come to the country to build a better life for themselves and their families:

"While president, Washington kept the policy — a carry-over from British rule — that encouraged immigration and nearly amounted to open borders."

https://www.boundless.com/blog/washington

"I had always hoped that this land might become a safe & agreeable Asylum to the virtuous & persecuted part of mankind, to whatever nation they might belong;"

Letter from George Washington to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, 28 May 1788
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/04-06-02-0266

@Earl-of-Trumps said
Trump made his money from the stock market, not from some kick back scheme at the expense of the taxpayer.

In that case, why is Trump suing the IRS for $10 billion USD, and who do you think will pay for that?

@Arkturos said
In that case, why is Trump suing the IRS for $10 billion USD, and who do you think will pay for that?

For the damage to his reputation when it came out he was lying about how much taxes he actually paid (really).

The lawsuit will be defended by the lawyers at the Department of Justice, any one of whom he can fire at any time.

Not a whiff of corruption there.

@no1marauder said
For the damage to his reputation when it came out he was lying about how much taxes he actually paid (really).

The lawsuit will be defended by the lawyers at the Department of Justice, any one of whom he can fire at any time.

Not a whiff of corruption there.

Whatever dirt Trump might have on his minions and enablers, I hope the tipping point comes soon when they all have more on him, with receipts.

@Arkturos said
In that case, why is Trump suing the IRS for $10 billion USD, and who do you think will pay for that?

I have no idea

@Earl-of-Trumps said
I have no idea

About which part -- the why, or who would pay?

@no1marauder said
Ridiculous. I haven't taken my ID out of my wallet since I took a plane to Cincinnati last August. And millions don't have Photo ID or easy access to the type of documents required by the SAVE Act:

" Additionally, just over 1% of adult U.S. citizens do not have any form of government-issued photo identification, which amounts to nearly 2.6 million people."

". Anothe ...[text shortened]... /sites/cdce.umd.edu/files/pubs/Voter%20ID%202023%20survey%20Key%20Results%20Jan%202024%20%281%29.pdf

Millions???
You lost me there.

@no1marauder said
Ridiculous. I haven't taken my ID out of my wallet since I took a plane to Cincinnati last August. And millions don't have Photo ID or easy access to the type of documents required by the SAVE Act:

" Additionally, just over 1% of adult U.S. citizens do not have any form of government-issued photo identification, which amounts to nearly 2.6 million people."

". Anothe ...[text shortened]... /sites/cdce.umd.edu/files/pubs/Voter%20ID%202023%20survey%20Key%20Results%20Jan%202024%20%281%29.pdf

???
You need ID for everything!!!!!

LIAR

@no1marauder said
Ridiculous. I haven't taken my ID out of my wallet since I took a plane to Cincinnati last August. And millions don't have Photo ID or easy access to the type of documents required by the SAVE Act:

" Additionally, just over 1% of adult U.S. citizens do not have any form of government-issued photo identification, which amounts to nearly 2.6 million people."

". Anothe ...[text shortened]... /sites/cdce.umd.edu/files/pubs/Voter%20ID%202023%20survey%20Key%20Results%20Jan%202024%20%281%29.pdf

All false hominines.

To do anything, drive, get mail, buy beer, have a bank account, rent a car, rent a hotel,.... I could keep going on. Unless you are homeless, you have ID.

@no1marauder said
George Washington knew that there was a big difference between a foreign military and immigrants wanting to come to the country to build a better life for themselves and their families:

"While president, Washington kept the policy — a carry-over from British rule — that encouraged immigration and nearly amounted to open borders."

https://www.boundless.com/blog/washi ...[text shortened]... s Adrian Van der Kemp, 28 May 1788
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/04-06-02-0266

?

@Arkturos said
About which part -- the why, or who would pay?

both

@Arkturos said
The grift of Trump and Trump Corp and the Trump family in general certainly deserves a thread of its own.

On my side, when the Clintons finally left the White House, I hoped never to see either one of them again. Later I learned that they had illegally made off with some of the nation's dinnerware as souvenirs!

I'm sure all former POTUS's took some mementos but Trump takes the cake, stealing hundreds of TS and ABOVE top secret docs and actually read one to an Aussie billionaire about how close an American sub can approach a Russian sub undetected.
Of course Russia would clearly have no use for that document so I guess Trump is ok just being a traitor.

@AverageJoe1 said
One thing we know. Biden family had avg net worth, he had small lawyer stint but was 94% in public employ. So, started as an average guy in the way of money.
So, here you come all about comparing him to a man whom you all have proven had millions in family money to start with, prob in his teens.
Give it a rest, Mr TDS. And remember the adage, money begets mo ...[text shortened]... do.....distribute his money. Am I right? Is that what hyou are saying? The, what ARE you saying?

I tell you Trump ran off with TWO FKING BILLION in foreign bribes and BTW, BRIBES is exactly what they are, UAE, Saudi's, spending LITERALLY billions to buy Trumps bitcoin but you are WAY too STUPID to see bribes when you see them.
Do you seriously think they bought that crap as a monetary investment? They spent that money because they know that is how Trump does business. Give me money, Trump goes, and your problems are MY problems.

THAT IS WHY THEY BRIBE TRUMP.

HE LOVES bribes, preferably in gold bullion.

But you are WAY to stupid and with your head firmly up Trump stinking ass, you can never see the forest for the trees.

And that is on YOU.

You don't give a rats ass how many laws Trump breaks, how many people get killed from ICE gestapo, you don't care AMERICANS have been deported. For you, no big deal, the ends justify the means and if a few hundred American citizens get caught up in it, their pain is worth it to get rid of all those MILLIONS of rapists, sex trafficers, theives and such right?

No matter the jobs market in is total chaos from loss of thousands of workers and businesses closing down because ICE kidnapped folks working for a living PAYING TAXES, buying food, gas for car etc but NONE of that matters to a flaming racist like you, you don't give a rats ass how many businesses fail because ICE kidnapped workers who BTW are NOT the worse of the worse like Trump keeps PUKING.

In fact less than one in TEN are some kind of crim but the 90% who are NOT are treated just as badly because that is the whole POINT of ICE, to cause fear, that is their main goal and BTW MILLIONS are protesting AS WE SPEAK because of these atrocities committed by ICE THUGS who are TOLD to be cruel, KICK ASS.

Just don't bother white skins, ONLY BROWN AND BLACK SKINS, THEY ARE FAIR GAIM and we don't give a rats as if they are citizens or not, they are BROWN so FK EM, they deserve to be in a gulag BECAUSE they are brown skinned.

Yep, a real way to bring us together, using ICE as a way to run fear into EVERYONE, because now WHITE AMERICAN citizens are getting arrested and thrown in prison, some TWO HUNDRED AMERICAN CITIZENS with ZERO criminal records, AND not allowed to even talk to a lawyer, remember that deal called Habeas Corpus? Or Due process? For you that is just a bunch of suggestions since we are being invaded DAILY by MILLIONS of rabid criminals, right?

@Earl-of-Trumps said
Trump made his money from the stock market, not from some kick back scheme at the expense of the taxpayer.

https://abcnews.com/US/trump-family-crypto-venture-tapped-part-2b-emirati/story?id=121415842

This is NOT stock market and BTW the emoluments clause strictly forbids a POTUS from making money going right into his pocket BECAUSE he is POTUS,

REAL people, who can actually THINK made that rule EXACTLY because if POTUS makes money as POTUS BECAUSE he allows foreigners to by into his crypto scheme, that is BRIBERY not stock market buy and sell.

Those folks LITERALLY saved Trump's ass from losing it ALL because he could not make the mortgage payments of his properties and it was the first bunch of HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS that allowed Trump to pay off mortgage debt that was very close to foreclosure.

So is all the He made money in the stock market you being incredibly naive or are you just plain STUPID?

Which I don't believe so the other story there is you said it deliberately as a distraction from the MANY failures of Trump.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2022/07/29/donald-trumps-great-escape-how-the-former-president-solved-his-debt-crisis/

@AverageJoe1 said
Why do you not explain? Why are we on this forum?

Weren't you the one asking for "a simple yes or no" just the other day?