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What is a criminal?

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@Sleepyguy said
Enabling deluded people leads to real world harm.
Claiming someone isn’t a criminal because you decided their trial was biased IS enabling deluded people.


@AThousandYoung said
Claiming someone isn’t a criminal because you decided their trial was biased IS enabling deluded people.
I don't think I made such a claim. My qualification of whether Trump is a criminal (my definition, not the technically legal one offered by AJ), hinged on whether the charges against him are actually true, a point I remained agnostic on.

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@Sleepyguy said
I have TDS and am angry Kamala lost? Are directing that at me?
No. Actually, I consider statements made directly to one person not in keeping with forum etiquette…. for one thing,I don’t know you.
like what if you said you had a hard time making ends meet, and we converse, but then I find out that you have six children, that you cannot afford. A bad choice which you made. which means that anything I might say would be totally irrelevant regarding how to make sense of it.
So I always take any post, when the word you is stated, that they mean the relevant group of the moment. Like, your contemporariies or your peers.
If I say you seem to be happy that illegals have crossed the border, I don’t mean you personally I mean the liberals and the Democrats.


@AverageJoe1 said
No. Actually, I consider statements made directly to one person not in keeping with forum etiquette…. for one thing,I don’t know you.
like what if you said you had a hard time making ends meet, and we converse, but then I find out that you have six children, that you cannot afford. A bad choice which you made. which means that anything I might say would be totally irr ...[text shortened]... illegals have crossed the border, I don’t mean you personally I mean the liberals and the Democrats.
Thanks for the answer. I have a hard time following the meaning of your posts much of the time. For me they come off as stream of consciousness rambling with weird punctuation. I think we actually agree on some things, but I simply don't take the time to decipher your meaning most of the time.

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@AverageJoe1 said
A person who seems to have broken a law might be a defendant or a suspect or whatever, but he is not a criminal until the judge or the jury says he is.
Then most of the "illegal immigrants" aren't criminals, but Trump is.


@Sleepyguy said
Thanks for the answer. I have a hard time following the meaning of your posts much of the time. For me they come off as stream of consciousness rambling with weird punctuation. I think we actually agree on some things, but I simply don't take the time to decipher your meaning most of the time.
Sorry. I always feel the need to do analogies, to make my points.
Maybe that is a little much. Obviously, I do not have a grandmother, but it is like having a muse to bounce things off of to render more of a conversational approach..
I do my best to keep it interesting,so that members do not defect over to The Sonhouse Chronicles.
I am more moderate than you may think, but I have to come across like I do because there are very few conservatives on the forum, I totally disagree with Trump wanting to cap credit card interest rates at 10%. That does not work Price controls never work, banks would have to operate at a loss; what price controls do is they lead to shortages of opportunities to borrow money.
Another great issue rises, you have to borrow money to make money, but liberals think that there should be no debt. That is beyond my comprehension..


@AThousandYoung said
Then most of the "illegal immigrants" aren't criminals, but Trump is.
Yes, the felony that Sonhouse occasionally 🤣writes about. It is on appeal, and with good lawyers, Trump could possibly prevail and be acquitted. So this is a gray area, he is a criminal now, but might not be later.!
They need a word for a person in that situation!! Limbo, or Purgatory!

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@AverageJoe1 said
Yes, the felony that Sonhouse occasionally 🤣writes about. It is on appeal, and with good lawyers, Trump could possibly prevail and be acquitted. So this is a gray area, he is a criminal now, but might not be later.!
They need a word for a person in that situation!! Limbo, or Purgatory!
34 felonies, not one.

Aren't most criminals trying to appeal their case and if they had good lawyers they might prevail and get acquitted?

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@AverageJoe1 said
Sorry. I always feel the need to do analogies, to make my points.
Maybe that is a little much. Obviously, I do not have a grandmother, but it is like having a muse to bounce things off of to render more of a conversational approach..
I do my best to keep it interesting,so that members do not defect over to The Sonhouse Chronicles.
I am more moderate than you ...[text shortened]... y to make money, but liberals think that there should be no debt. That is beyond my comprehension..
OK, here again I have no clue how your grandmother, or lack thereof, relates to anything being discussed. But I do agree with you on Trump trying to price fix credit card rates. I suspect it's an attempt to signal voters he's on their side on "affordability."


@AThousandYoung said
34 felonies, not one.

Aren't most criminals trying to appeal their case and if they had good lawyers they might prevail and get acquitted?
Yes of course. 🤔


@AThousandYoung said
34 felonies, not one.

Aren't most criminals trying to appeal their case and if they had good lawyers they might prevail and get acquitted?
name one


@AThousandYoung said
Then most of the "illegal immigrants" aren't criminals, but Trump is.
how stupid do you have to be to write this?

ALL illegal immigrants are criminals,dayyuuummm


@Sleepyguy said
OK, here again I have no clue how your grandmother, or lack thereof, relates to anything being discussed. But I do agree with you on Trump trying to price fix credit card rates. I suspect it's an attempt to signal voters he's on their side on "affordability."
Yes,,,,,enter politics. Look at it this way, Trump might consider letting anyone from 192 countries cross the river into the United States, to get votes from dependents,.....AND from people such as yourself*..........But Biden beat him to that gambit!!11
*remember, a lot people here like Marauder demand NO ID TO VOTE!! Biden beat Trump to that, too.
So, all Trump can travel on is affordability. No tax on tips, no tax on SS, ,,,,,Trump is on that one!! Lower oil/gas, ridding govt of 240,000 employees, he is great with money. GDP is getting over 5%. Sorry, most here have no idea what that is. And how about 1/2 of California billionaires are LEAVING California. They are taking $1T dollars in revenues with them. There is $1T still there, let us see what happens to Gavin Newsome. Did you see the pic (sue says photo) of him crossing his legs in a 'come-on' fashion. Creepy indeed.
Enjoy the chat, hard to come by here. You think AvJoe is a difficult read? How can you wade through the cynicism? And the non-answer to questions. I ask simple questions, like why no tears for Charlie Kirk Children, or do you agree with Marauder that a person's clothes/hat/outfit can change his sex?
A good example indeed. He says a guy can put on a dress, and we should accept his creepiness as being a woman. I asked him if I wear a sombrero can I be a mexican,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he is silent. You part of that cllique?

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
name one
Just one. Like if you shoot a guy, kill him with 34 shots.............Is that 34 murders, or is it one? (Hey, sleepy, one of my best).
The vile Laetitia James that dreamed up this witch hunt is about to get her comeuppance. Trump is not happy. The news (that you all never see) will show he is not happy with pam Bondi, attorney general, as she is not prosecuting these basterds fast enough.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
name one
Diddy

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