@vivify saidYou have been duped by the fake fact checkers. Gene therapy does not have to affect or interact with human DNA to be gene therapy.
I was working earlier so I didn't have time for a more thorough post.
You're confusing viral vector "gene therapy" with viral vector vaccines; the later doesn't affect or interact with human DNA. This is why you're accusing the FDA website of being "wrong"; you're just not reading correctly.
Viral vector gene therapy:
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/cell ...[text shortened]... or vaccines:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/viralvector.html
The fake fact checkers are giving you false information. Introducing new or modified RNA to change the biological properties of cells is also gene therapy. That is exactly what the gene vaccines do.
Those fake fact checkers are spreading false information and you fell for it.
@shavixmir saidFrom the government link below:
You. You completely fail to comprehend.
I've explained all this umpteen times over the past year. Ain't doin' it no more.
"For rapid development, RNA vaccines and adenovirus vector vaccines have been urgently approved, and their injection has already started across the world. These types of vaccine technologies have been developed over more than 20 years using translational research for use against cancer or diseases caused by genetic disorders but the COVID-19 vaccines are the first licensed drugs to prevent infectious diseases using RNA vaccine technology."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33772572/
You falsely claimed gene vaccines were in the experimental phase. I proved you wrong again.
You are suffering from psychosis. So is vivify, shallow and suzi. That makes the psychosis massive. Mass psychosis exists. You and your misinformed friends are proof of that.
@vivify saidHe's not really reading at all. He just spots two words that are linked together in his mind and immediately jumps to a conclusion of conspiracies, without reading the rest of the page.
You're confusing viral vector "gene therapy" with viral vector vaccines; the later doesn't affect or interact with human DNA. This is why you're accusing the FDA website of being "wrong"; you're just not reading correctly.
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@metal-brain saidThe "fake fact checkers" of the CDC and FDA? You mean the same organizations YOU have been using as a source in this very thread?
You have been duped by the fake fact checkers.
Okay kiddo.
@metal-brain saidThat invalidates your claim that vaccines are or some form of gene therapy.
That is true. What does that have to do with anything?
@metal-brain saidWhen your mistake of confusing gene therapy vectors with with vector vaccines, your answer was to claim the CDC and FDA links I used are "fake fact checkers". If "mass psychosis" exists, wouldn't you be the poster boy for it, when you attack the very sources YOU have been using?
You are suffering from psychosis. So is vivify, shallow and suzi. That makes the psychosis massive. Mass psychosis exists. You and your misinformed friends are proof of that.
You've been refuted yet again, and your response is to call your own sources "fake" when they refute you. Ironically, your behavior is evidence of "mass psychosis".
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@vivify saidThey are viral vectors. That is why they are called "viral vector vaccines". Look it up.
The "fake fact checkers" of the CDC and FDA? You mean the same organizations YOU have been using as a source in this very thread?
Okay kiddo.
The CDC and FDA never denied they are called gene vaccines.
You didn't disprove anything I have said and neither did they. I challenge you to post a single excerpt from them that disproves anything I have said.
@metal-brain saidGrow up.
You have been duped by the fake fact checkers. Gene therapy does not have to affect or interact with human DNA to be gene therapy.
The fake fact checkers are giving you false information. Introducing new or modified RNA to change the biological properties of cells is also gene therapy. That is exactly what the gene vaccines do.
Those fake fact checkers are spreading false information and you fell for it.
@shallow-blue saidThere is no conspiracy here. They are called gene vaccines or genetic vaccines. Actually, it is you that has a conspiracy theory. You think Wikipedia, Harvard Medical School and the government are conspiring to mislead you.
He's not really reading at all. He just spots two words that are linked together in his mind and immediately jumps to a conclusion of conspiracies, without reading the rest of the page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_vaccine
https://hms.harvard.edu/news/gene-vaccine
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33772572/
That last link proved shav and vivify wrong. That is a government website that says gene vaccines have already been given to people worldwide. Their "experimental" claim was false because they didn't see the date of the Harvard website and "assumed".
@metal-brain saidThat is literally the definition of gene therapy:
No, it doesn't. The assertion that gene therapy has to change your DNA is misinformation.
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/cellular-gene-therapy-products/what-gene-therapy
"Gene therapy is a technique that modifies a person’s genes to treat or cure disease."
Vaccines do not alter DNA, and therefore are not gene therapy.
The mere definition of gene therapy refutes your arguments.
@metal-brain saidYes. And you're confusing viral vector gene therapy with viral vector vaccines.
They are viral vectors. That is why they are called "viral vector vaccines". Look it up.
I *already* pointed this out. Do you have Alzheimer's?
@vivify saidThat is true, but that is not a requirement for gene therapy. You omitted the other part after that. Here it is.
That is literally the definition of gene therapy:
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/cellular-gene-therapy-products/what-gene-therapy
"Gene therapy is a technique that modifies a person’s genes to treat or cure disease."
Vaccines do not alter DNA, and therefore are not gene therapy.
The mere definition of gene therapy refutes your arguments.
"Gene therapies can work by several mechanisms:
Replacing a disease-causing gene with a healthy copy of the gene
Inactivating a disease-causing gene that is not functioning properly
Introducing a new or modified gene into the body to help treat a disease"
Notice that last of the three. Introducing a new or modified gene into the body to help treat a disease does not change people's DNA, yet it is on the FDA's list.
That is exactly what mRNA vaccines and viral vector vaccines do. mRNA is a gene. It is introduced into your body to treat covid19, a disease. That FDA website also says lists viral vectors as one of the methods of gene therapy. Viral Vectors do not change your DNA either, so you are wrong.
There are gene therapy techniques that change DNA, but not all of them do. If that was true, viral vectors would not be on their list of gene therapy techniques.