25 Oct 05
Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardAnd why is it American, or the rest of the World for that matter need to know?
here the story of a us marine who fought in iraq and admits he killed over 30 innocent civillians.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10547.htm
Its not the first, its not gonna be the last, and the innocent blood that was shed will never live again.
Nor anyone has the guts to do any damn thing about it..
25 Oct 05
Originally posted by PeachyBecause they voted for bush - the cause of all this useless bloodshed...
And why is it American, or the rest of the World for that matter need to know?
Its not the first, its not gonna be the last, and the innocent blood that was shed will never live again.
Nor anyone has the guts to do any damn thing about it..
Im sure that if some of the bush voters where aware of this they would have voted otherwise, and this would have saved a lot of lives.
25 Oct 05
Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardAnd Blair backed him up.
Because they voted for bush - the cause of all this useless bloodshed...
Im sure that if some of the bush voters where aware of this they would have voted otherwise, and this would have saved a lot of lives.
Throw the blame on the two B's and all their supporters.
Throw the blame on everyone else who didn't support them but done
nothing about it.
25 Oct 05
Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardThey voted for Bush the second time after the war was underway. What's more, Kerry said he would have followed the same policy. What's even more, congress provided the money. What makes you think the bloodshed is useless?
Because they voted for bush - the cause of all this useless bloodshed...
Im sure that if some of the bush voters where aware of this they would have voted otherwise, and this would have saved a lot of lives.
25 Oct 05
Originally posted by PeachyGets my rec, Peachy. But don't forget to include Saddam and company in the blame. And the UN. And etc. etc. etc.
And Blair backed him up.
Throw the blame on the two B's and all their supporters.
Throw the blame on everyone else who didn't support them but done
nothing about it.
25 Oct 05
Originally posted by DelmerKilling for the sake of it is useless. But it this case I think we can say that this was an individual who claims to be a mass murderer. I don't think America is responsible, it may be interesting to the public buts it serves little public interest.
They voted for Bush the second time after the war was underway. What's more, Kerry said he would have followed the same policy. What's even more, congress provided the money. What makes you think the bloodshed is useless?
26 Oct 05
Originally posted by invigorateI'm not sure I understand what you mean by "...it may be interesting to the public but it serves little public interest."
Killing for the sake of it is useless. But it this case I think we can say that this was an individual who claims to be a mass murderer. I don't think America is responsible, it may be interesting to the public buts it serves little public interest.
26 Oct 05
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Originally posted by invigorateReading the article, his claim is that American troops were unnecessarily killing innocent civilians due to poor training. Why would the prevention of unnecessary killings be of "little public interest"?
Killing for the sake of it is useless. But it this case I think we can say that this was an individual who claims to be a mass murderer. I don't think America is responsible, it may be interesting to the public buts it serves little public interest.
EDIT: From the article:
Massey, a chubby-cheeked man with short hair and glasses, said in the lobby bar of a Paris hotel that the casual violence exhibited by him and his men was the deliberate result of combat training approved by the very highest US authorities.
Later revelations of abuse by US soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison and elsewhere were symptomatic of the breadth of the problem, Massey said.
"Overall, we have to look at the (Bush) administration in terms of responsibility for the atrocities and the murder at the checkpoints," he said, questioning "the level of brutality instilled in the Marines."
The briefings they received, he said, made US troops view "everyone as a potential terrorist -- they put fear and panic into my Marines."
26 Oct 05
Originally posted by no1marauderBe sure to add that the Marines discharged Massey and that Massey is now peddling his book "Kill, Kill, Kill".
Reading the article, his claim is that American troops were unnecessarily killing innocent civilians due to poor training. Why would the prevention of unnecessary killings be of "little public interest"?
EDIT: From the article:
Massey, a chubby-cheeked man with short hair and glasses, said in the lobby bar of a Paris hotel that the casua ...[text shortened]... US troops view "everyone as a potential terrorist -- they put fear and panic into my Marines."
26 Oct 05
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Originally posted by DelmerHe was Honorably Discharged for medical reasons, Del and the book was written well after he gave numerous interviews spelling out his experiences in detail. Let's keep the facts straight. I didn't know you had something against authors. He was also a 12 year veteran of the Corps; do you support our troops only when they don't criticize government policies?
Be sure to add that the Marines discharged Massey and that Massey is now peddling his book "Kill, Kill, Kill".
26 Oct 05
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Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardOk, lets analyze his background and the excepts from his book: He's a "former" staff seargent who obviously went post traumatic due to exposure to Iraq, therefore, he was probably discharged as medically unfit, psychologically, for service as a Marine. The book was released in France of all places....where else would he have a more anti-American customer base? He's not only psycho, but he is also a good businessman. Do you really believe a U.S. publishing company would not have published something of this nature after that fatass windbag Michael Moore published 9-11? If this former "Jarhead" is telling the truth, plenty of American publishers, starting with the New York Times, would have been all over his story. I assume this former Marine is now living in France of all places, which is where he belongs, because his fellow Marine brothers would rip him to shreads for lying.
here the story of a us marine who fought in iraq and admits he killed over 30 innocent civillians.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10547.htm
His excerpt: In the book, he claims he and a group of Marines were near Baghdad when a group of 10 Iraqi men started to protest near them, yelling out anti-US slogans. At the sound of a gunshot, he said he and his men fired on the group, killing most of them, only to find out later that none of them was armed.
He also recounts several episodes at checkpoints where civilian cars failed to stop and their unarmed occupants were shot to death.
Well, unless one has been in combat and heard actual gunfire, and having no time in figuring out where the gunfire came from except from the group of Iraqis who were protesting, one has to give the Marines the benefit of the doubt, to the unfortunate dead Iraqis, when bullets start flying. Do you expect the Marines to say "hey, are you gentlemen the ones who fired that shot at us"? 🙄......
Another excerpt: "Overall, we have to look at the (Bush) administration in terms of responsibility for the atrocities and the murder at the checkpoints," he said, questioning "the level of brutality instilled in the Marines."The briefings "put fear and panic into my Marines."
Do you expect the Marines to hold their fire until the car pulls up to them and explodes? The Iraqis KNOW the rules about driving too fast towards checkpoints and not stopping....another stupid assumption by him and the publisher......
Another excerpt: Massey, a chubby-cheeked man with short hair and glasses, said in the lobby bar of a Paris hotel that the "casual violence exhibited by him and his men was the deliberate result of combat training approved by the very highest US authorities".
Well, what do you expect Marines to be trained for? changing diapers?
Another excerpt: The briefings they received, he said, made US troops view "everyone as a potential terrorist "
Well, EVERYONE was a potential enemy before the insurgency and still are...the insurgents dress just as the baker, mailman, grocer, etc...juat as in 'NAM
Last, but not least excerpt: Although the target of criticism from serving members of the US military -- some of whom see the book as score-settling by a disgruntled Marine forced to leave the services -- Massey has received significant interest in his book in France.
That last paragraph says it all!!!! "disgruntled Marine who couldn't handle combat", so he fled to France where he knew he would have an audience and find open arms. He should become a French citizen. He obviously is a "pussy" for not telling his story in the U.S. A mother who lost her son in Iraq has more balls than this piece of chit ex-Marine, and she camped out on the Crawford Ranch to tell Bush that the war is wrong....a REAL Marine would never betray his fellow marines and tell lies at their expense...this guy is flotsam
Reading your profile, LordOfTheChessboard, it doesn't surprise me that you believe this drivel also...and I'm sure your compatriots here at RHP will be labeling me all sorts of names.....bring 'em on.....😉