Where did the flu go?

@kewpie said
If Twitter had a Metal Brain it would have been banned, because of persistent misinformation. No1 and shavixmir, please don't keep encouraging this individual.
None so blind as those who will not see.

Saying it ain't proving it fool!

@sonhouse said
@Kewpie
It doesn't matter much what we say, metal brain will come up with BS no matter what ANYONE says.

I believe that is the poster boy for TROLL.

You are trolling again! Project somewhere else.

@no1marauder said
A more likely explanation than your crank conspiracy theory:

"Experts think the biggest factor for the drop in the number of COVID-19 cases is that people aren’t attending as many inside gatherings as they did during the holiday season.

Vaccinations in at-risk groups is probably helping a bit along with increasing population immunity amongst those who’ve already had ...[text shortened]... ealthline.com/health-news/covid-19-cases-are-dropping-we-talked-to-experts-about-why#The-bottom-line

From the link below:

"The proposed PCR tests also ignore the “essential scientific gold standard” which is to have a positive control and a negative control, by which to identify COVID-19 from other coronaviruses. Furthermore, the CD paper itself notes the gene used in the tests is not specific to COVID-19, and thus detects “a broad spectrum of other SARS viruses.”

Based on all these errors, and even drawn from text in the CD paper itself, the ICSLS warns that it is “inevitable” that “the PCR test described in the Corman-Drosten paper generates false positives.” This is echoed by Dr. Sacré, who wrote that the chief limitation of PCR tests is the “extreme sensitivity (false positive) if a suitable threshold of positivity (Ct) is not chosen.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/scientists-show-covid-tests-are-useless-are-based-on-flawed-science

Flu cases were counted as covid because of false positives.

There is a reason nobody is bragging about suppressing the flu. They know it is still here and sooner or later that will be revealed and they don't want suffer a backlash from lying to us all about it.

If the flu was really suppressed they would be bragging all day and all night long about it. Their silence says a lot. BTW, why no news reports about it on the TV nightly news? Does anyone really believe this is not newsworthy?

Why no bragging?

@metal-brain said
There is a reason nobody is bragging about suppressing the flu. They know it is still here and sooner or later that will be revealed and they don't want suffer a backlash from lying to us all about it.

If the flu was really suppressed they would be bragging all day and all night long about it. Their silence says a lot. BTW, why no news reports about it on the TV nightly news? Does anyone really believe this is not newsworthy?

Why no bragging?

I think "they" are a little more concerned with controlling the present pandemic than "bragging" about the collateral benefits that suppression measures have regarding far less serious diseases.

@no1marauder said
I think "they" are a little more concerned with controlling the present pandemic than "bragging" about the collateral benefits that suppression measures have regarding far less serious diseases.

They could at least mention it on the TV nightly news. Perhaps they don't want to explain it because PCR tests are detecting all coronaviruses including the flu as SARS2.

https://principia-scientific.com/who-finally-admits-covid19-pcr-test-has-a-problem/

https://archive.is/MdDCX

@no1marauder said
You do realize that the WHO has nothing to do with how COVID cases are reported in the US?

You remain incredibly uninformed and gullible. Daily reported cases reached a high on January 8th and have rather steadily declined since then. The number of active cases reached a high on January 31st before declining. Daily reported deaths peaked on January 12th. The data that ...[text shortened]... idiculous conspiracy theory is available here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

LIAR!!!!!

From the reuters link:

"Gates said he was also pleased that under Biden, the United States has rejoined the World Health Organization, and “that he’s appointed smart people, and the fact that Dr. Fauci won’t be suppressed.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-gates-conspiracies-idUSKBN29W0Q3

@metal-brain said
LIAR!!!!!

From the reuters link:

"Gates said he was also pleased that under Biden, the United States has rejoined the World Health Organization, and “that he’s appointed smart people, and the fact that Dr. Fauci won’t be suppressed.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-gates-conspiracies-idUSKBN29W0Q3

The article hardly refutes my contention and your usual childish claims that someone else is a "liar" make you deserve a banning.

@no1marauder said
The article hardly refutes my contention and your usual childish claims that someone else is a "liar" make you deserve a banning.

Then prove your claim. You know you cannot because it is not true. You even posted a link claiming to prove it and it contained nothing of the sort.

You are dishonest and you deserve banning. You are the usual cry baby that avoids losing debates by attempting to censor me instead of admitting you embarrassed yourself by making false claims.

@metal-brain said
There is a reason nobody is bragging about suppressing the flu. They know it is still here and sooner or later that will be revealed and they don't want suffer a backlash from lying to us all about it.

If the flu was really suppressed they would be bragging all day and all night long about it. Their silence says a lot. BTW, why no news reports about it on the TV nightly news? Does anyone really believe this is not newsworthy?

Why no bragging?

What the hell are you jibbering on about???

I’ve given you links with figures and stats from various countries.
Nobody is bragging, because bragging is pathetic.
The flu is still here (which you initially denied, or at least I think that’s what you were doing) and there are less cases of flu, because of the measures taken against corona. If you lockdown schools, social distance and wear masks, you don’t spread as much influenza as usual.

Nothing you say makes any bloody sense!

In 1918 - 1920 many similar measures were taken to combat the Spanish flu (influenza strain which ended up killing 60.000.000+ people).

Nobody is suggesting there is no flu.
Nobody is suggesting it’s not surpressed a little; because it is; because of corona measures.

You have to climb out of your rabbit hole. Breathe some reality.

@shavixmir said
What the hell are you jibbering on about???

I’ve given you links with figures and stats from various countries.
Nobody is bragging, because bragging is pathetic.
The flu is still here (which you initially denied, or at least I think that’s what you were doing) and there are less cases of flu, because of the measures taken against corona. If you lockdown schools, socia ...[text shortened]... is; because of corona measures.

You have to climb out of your rabbit hole. Breathe some reality.

You claimed those figures and stats were not determined by testing for the flu. You claimed anyone who tests negative for SARS2 is considered the flu.

The PCR tests have false negatives and positives. That means any negative (including false negatives) is tallied as the flu. Even if there was no flu at all there would be false negatives tallied as the flu. Common sense.

PCR tests are flawed. Here is an excerpt from the link below:

"Many errors are presented by the ICSLS. The concentration of primers used in the development of the PCR tests are “far too high” for “optimal specific amplifications of target genes.” The variations of primer pairs used in the CD paper mean, “The design variations will inevitably lead to results that are not even SARS CoV-2 related.” Thus, various laboratories could assume they have detected a positive COVID case, using a formula that does not actually detect COVID.

In order for a PCR test to be reliable, “amplification from 3 different genes (primers) of the virus under investigation is required.” Yet the ICSLS found in the CD paper that “in nearly all test procedures worldwide, merely 2 primer matches were used instead of all three. This oversight renders the entire test-protocol useless with regards to delivering accurate test-results of real significance in an ongoing pandemic.”

Continuing, the ICSLS notes that the proposed PCR test contains “severe design errors,” and since the test is unable to distinguish between “the whole virus and viral fragments” it “cannot be used as a diagnostic for SARS-viruses.” A positive test, as mentioned in the CD paper, cannot determine if one is infected with the virus, but “merely indicates the presence of viral RNA molecules.”

The review then deals with the amplification cycles of the tests. The CD paper does not even define what a positive or negative test result is, but does suggest that “45 PCR cycles” are to be performed. While a PCR test can have up to 60 cycles of amplification, both Dr. Sacré and the ICSLS point out that PCR test data from a cycle value of 35 or more is “completely unreliable.” “Only non-infectious (dead) viruses are detected with [cycle] values of 35,” the group adds, as even above 30 cycles there is “a grey area”, where a positive result cannot be trusted.

After the amplification process is complete, “biomolecular validation” is “essential” to determine the presence of COVID-19, since “amplified PCR products can be anything.” But the CD paper’s protocol does not do so, and the ICSLS consequently calls any PCR test developed on such a basis “useless as a specific diagnostic tool to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/scientists-show-covid-tests-are-useless-are-based-on-flawed-science

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You fullfact link lied. Here is an excerpt from that article:

"PCR tests can sometimes indicate that someone does not have the virus when they do (false negative). They can also indicate that someone has the virus when they don’t (false positive).

It’s hard to say how many false negatives and positives PCR tests produce, but in general, these tests are “highly accurate”."

They are not highly accurate. It is also insulting to the intellect of the reader for the author to say it is hard to say how many and conclude any degree of accuracy.

Next time you want to claim you debunked anything read the article to your own link so you know how contradictory and ridiculous their claims are. Also, get your info from a reputable source and not a clown site nobody has heard of.

@metal-brain said
Also, get your info from a reputable source and not a clown site nobody has heard of.

Oh, the irony.

@metal-brain said
From the link below:

"The proposed PCR tests also ignore the “essential scientific gold standard” which is to have a positive control and a negative control, by which to identify COVID-19 from other coronaviruses. Furthermore, the CD paper itself notes the gene used in the tests is not specific to COVID-19, and thus detects “a broad spectrum of other SARS viruses.”

...[text shortened]... e-useless-are-based-on-flawed-science

Flu cases were counted as covid because of false positives.

“ Flu cases were counted as covid because of false positives.”
Prove it or stop lying.
False positives for corona virus have relation to flu stats whatsoever stop making 2 + 2 = 5