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Where is the loyalty?.

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@Earl-of-Trumps said
the whole POINT of these attacks is to drive his enemies into bankruptcy.

Wasn't that Tish James' whole point?? She drove him crazy
Yeah, when he was TOTALLY innocent, right? Calling up the Georgia AG and DEMANDING him to find 11870 votes so he could ILLEGALLY get the state.
So SHE is in trouble for doing her FKING JOB?
So you are fully in on the idea of our present TWO TIER justice system, you and I go to jail, Trump does exactly the same thing, gets soft glove like in the fraud case involving Stormy Daniels, a LOT of other folks with near exact same charge went to jail but not Teflon Don. He also was found in contempt of court TEN TIMES and paid ten thousand in fines and now he demands 130 MILLION in reparations for ANYONE DARING to charge him with crimes, any one of which you or I would be in jail but not Trump BECAUSE it is now a TWO TIER justice system, one for regular folks and another for the super rich.
Hey, go ahead, DENY IT.


@cosmic-energy4 said
@wildgrass ; You're not serious,are you??????.
Nah, if you force citizens into loyalty to government, the system corrupts. The government exists to support the people who live there, not the other way around. The bedrock of fascism is the idea of a union between the leader of the government and its people. In a healthy society, this should not exist.

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@wildgrass ; I never said loyalty to the government,but to the country!!.

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@cosmic-energy4 said
@AverageJoe1 ; I'm refering to countrys that allows multiple citizenships.
The US needs to be more careful than other countries in this matter. Any immigrant is accepted on refugee grounds, they must be forced to give up dual citizenship especially if they are from Islamic countries, fleeing persecution. People from these countries are indoctrinated from birth to hate and kill Americans. The US has to be one the few countries where immigrants so openly burn American flags and claim they hate America. These immigrants should be deported immediately.

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@Rajk999 ; I agree, a country that wants emigrants must be selective and conditional by not having multiple citizenship emigrants coming in.

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@cosmic-energy4 said
@wildgrass ; I never said loyalty to the government,but to the country!!.
The rules surrounding citizenship etc are defined by it's government, so youre just playing semantics.

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@wildgrass ; I don't think you understand the deferance between the country and governmet?.

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@cosmic-energy4 said
@wildgrass ; I don't think you understand the deferance between the country and governmet?.
Countries have governments, governments decide citizenship rules. So your thread is about government.

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@wildgrass; Look is simple,when you become a citizen,you become a citizen of a country not a citizen of a government and that includes from the day you're born.Please don't disturb me enymore if you don't understand that much!!!!!!!!!!.

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@cosmic-energy4 said
@wildgrass; Look is simple,when you become a citizen,you become a citizen of a country not a citizen of a government and that includes from the day you're born.Please don't disturb me enymore if you don't understand that much!!!!!!!!!!.
Citizenship of a country is meaningless without its government.

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@cosmic-energy4 said
All the countries should abolish more than one citizenship due to loyalty,because one will be loyal to one country more than the other!.
I don't have an issue with this either way, however an intermediate step that might suit both sides is to allow dual citizenship but specify (in the legal sense) which is a person's primary country of citizenship and which country or countries are secondary. This would put all parties on notice which set of laws they must operate under. Perhaps No1Maruder or SH76 could put a finer point on this. 🙂

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@cosmic-energy4 said
@Rajk999 ; I agree, a country that wants emigrants must be selective and conditional by not having multiple citizenship emigrants coming in.
So you would be against Rupert Murdoch's kids to live in America, yknow the ones that will inherit his global news empire, because they are dual citizens of America and Britain. Oh yeah and Murdoch was an Australian citizen by birth but gave it up to be a US citizen to be able to own US media. So yeah he became a citizen for all the right reasons. Very loyal.

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@mchill ; Sorry, in my opinion the people can't be trusted therefore one have to decides one citizenship therefore he can be trusted!.I'm atheist I read the bible for curiosity I did come across, quate : ONE SHOULD NOT SERVE TWO MUSTERS BECAUSE HE WILL LIKE ONE MORE THAN THE OTHER: to me that make a lot of sense.

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@kmax87; Of corse his loyalty is to the money,can you trust such a persons ??.

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@cosmic-energy4 said
@kmax87; Of corse his loyalty is to the money,can you trust such a persons ??.
Personally, I would trust him more than a refugee from a Muslim background, who shouts 'Death to America', or who burn American flags, rape women and commit heinous crimes. Kmax87 appears to be an America-hater himself.