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@Ponderable said?? Ponderable says that Musk acts without thinking? Musk? A genius, all of whose acts have served him well for untold fortune??????????
I would carefully analyze and then fire the actual excess instead of first firing some percentage and thinking afterwards.
And just how do you know what he is doing, exactly? How do you know he is picking people at random? I would wager that Musk is deleting jobs, not people. Let that sink in.
He sees 4 people working on creating a widget, and realizes that 2 of the people are performing a task (job) in the process of starting the widget, then 1 in the middle and one at the end. The person at the end has an unnecessary job, as the middle person #3 can box up the widget......The job of the 4th person can be eliminated from the production. The job is eliminated, nothing for #4 to do, so he can work there no longer....there is no job there for him.
Ponderable, he is eliminating the job. Why would you keep the employee on? So that he would have a job? Suzianne said that once. Unbeleivable.
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@AverageJoe1 saidMusk has zero government experience and no authority to order mass firings. Judge after Judge has found so: https://newrepublic.com/post/192719/donald-trump-doge-judge-overturns-mass-firings
?? Ponderable says that Musk acts without thinking? Musk? A genius, all of whose acts have served him well for untold fortune??????????
And just how do you know what he is doing, exactly? How do you know he is picking people at random? I would wager that Musk is deleting jobs, not people. Let that sink in.
He sees 4 people working on creating a widge ...[text shortened]... uld you keep the employee on? So that he would have a job? Suzianne said that once. Unbeleivable.
https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/03/judge-musk-and-trumps-effort-disband-usaid-likely-unconstitutional/403866/
@wildgrass saidBaloney....when my Social Security gets cut, I'll let you know. Same for my wife's Medicare.
My original statement was accurate.
So far nothing has happened to us, and I'll bet you whatever you want that it's not going to happen.
@no1marauder saidWould you like to have 80 people on a payroll when the company only requires an employee of staff of 55 to run the company and make the widgets?
Musk has zero government experience and no authority to order mass firings. Judge after Judge has found so: https://newrepublic.com/post/192719/donald-trump-doge-judge-overturns-mass-firings
https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/03/judge-musk-and-trumps-effort-disband-usaid-likely-unconstitutional/403866/
There are only 2 possible answers to this really complicated question, which will be yours??
@AverageJoe1 saidHurting people is all the libtard Dems know.
.Y'all know someone who knows someone who is making and throwing molotov cocktails at his cars. If you were devoting your time to helping me, I would not destroy your property. I would thank you. Do you defend the molotov person?
He saved our astronauts
@Cliff-Mashburn saidOf course you change the subject.
Baloney....when my Social Security gets cut, I'll let you know. Same for my wife's Medicare.
So far nothing has happened to us, and I'll bet you whatever you want that it's not going to happen.
My comment is accurate. Musk said he intends to cut entitlements. You bring up your wife's Medicare checks are still being cashed, but of course that's not what I asserted.
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@AverageJoe1 saidThat's for the legally empowered persons at the company to decide not some novice outsider.
Would you like to have 80 people on a payroll when the company only requires an employee of staff of 55 to run the company and make the widgets?
There are only 2 possible answers to this really complicated question, which will be yours??
Musk doesn't know anything about the "widget" of providing government services nor does he have any lawful authority to fire employees providing them.
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@no1marauder saidLets say he has no authority to fire. So, there are thousands of people, mostly on government payroll, hired while Biden's Back Was Turned!!!!!!
Musk has zero government experience and no authority to order mass firings. Judge after Judge has found so: https://newrepublic.com/post/192719/donald-trump-doge-judge-overturns-mass-firings
https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/03/judge-musk-and-trumps-effort-disband-usaid-likely-unconstitutional/403866/
So there they are being paid millions. So, WHO has the authority to fire these unwanted employees, who have no jobs to work on??
Who? Who has that authority? Is it OK for the president to create a firing agency to reduce waste? Yes, I knew you would say yes, as that is his responsibility. So, follow me here...he hired Musk. Experienced, he has it all.
And why do you libs not want waste eliminated? You never say you want it eliminated for that matter. Why not? Does Marauder want our country to fail so he and Kurt Vonngut disciples can change it to Lord of the Flies?
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@wildgrass saidI am not going to look back at posts, but Musk has to cut entitlements. That is a lot of the waste. Like , if the govt were paying out $20M a month to loser college students for college loans, that is the losers being entitled to free money. Donald and I do not see the rationale or sense in it, so that entitlement would be eliminated.
Of course you change the subject.
My comment is accurate. Musk said he intends to cut entitlements. You bring up your wife's Medicare checks are still being cashed, but of course that's not what I asserted.
That should help, thankyou very much
Not Medicare, etc. Nor SS, which is our money, tho sue would disagree with me. Have you fellers gotten a load of her 'thinking' on THAT??
@AverageJoe1 saidI've explained to you already that:
Lets say he has no authority to fire. So, there are thousands of people, mostly on government payroll, hired while Biden's Back Was Turned!!!!!!
So there they are being paid millions. So, WHO has the authority to fire these unwanted employees, who have no jobs to work on??
Who? Who has that authority? Is it OK for the president to create a firing agency to red ...[text shortened]... rauder want our country to fail so he and Kurt Vonngut disciples can change it to Lord of the Flies?
A) It is Congress, not the President, that decides how Federal funds are spent including appropriate levels of personnel to complete Congressionally mandated tasks;
B) That if you ever read Lord of the Flies, you'd know it's a warning about blindly following "leaders" like Trump who appeal to fear and ignorance.
@AverageJoe1 saidI agree with you that entitlements need to be cut. Entitlements are Medicare, and social security. I also understand why taxpayers would be upset that a multi billionaire who does not pay taxes and was not elected gets to unilaterally make decisions about whose entitlements to cut.
I am not going to look back at posts, but Musk has to cut entitlements. That is a lot of the waste. Like , if the govt were paying out $20M a month to loser college students for college loans, that is the losers being entitled to free money. Donald and I do not see the rationale or sense in it, so that entitlement would be eliminated.
That should help, thankyou ve ...[text shortened]... r money, tho sue would disagree with me. Have you fellers gotten a load of her 'thinking' on THAT??
Cliffs wife will be fine, but others will not.
@wildgrass saidI didn't change the subject I said Trump/Musk aren't going to lower our benefits.
Of course you change the subject.
My comment is accurate. Musk said he intends to cut entitlements. You bring up your wife's Medicare checks are still being cashed, but of course that's not what I asserted.
YOU did.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidDude, you actually quoted what I wrote. Maybe go back and re-read it.
I didn't change the subject I said Trump/Musk aren't going to lower our benefits.
YOU did.
I don't think they will either. They're incompetent.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidDo you understand why taxpayers would be upset that a multi billionaire who does not pay taxes, was not elected, and is not from America would be given the authority to unilaterally make decisions about whose entitlements to cut?
I didn't change the subject I said Trump/Musk aren't going to lower our benefits.
YOU did.
@no1marauder saidLord Flies is basically anarchy. I fully believe you want anarchy.
I've explained to you already that:
A) It is Congress, not the President, that decides how Federal funds are spent including appropriate levels of personnel to complete Congressionally mandated tasks;
B) That if you ever read Lord of the Flies, you'd know it's a warning about blindly following "leaders" like Trump who appeal to fear and ignorance.
Federal Funds that Musk is finding being misspent are not being decided by congress, they re being willy nilly sent by the agencioes like USAID without congress' knowledge.....sent by their employees to people like the horrible Stacy Abrams to give to losers, green people , etc..
I spend all my time correcting you. I have to , Sue could fall for your stuff. I doubt congress told stacy to send money to green people. She had free rein. you know it i know it we all know it.