Zelensky: Dictator has to continue war

@Metal-Brain said
Russia warned about NATO expansion.

And Russia is the ultimate judge about who joins NATO?
So why did the Nato take the FRG into their folds?
And why did the Sowjet Union do nothing against that?

@Metal-Brain said
The US wanted Russia to invade Ukraine to keep Russia too busy to help Assad fight off the US supported terrorists.

What terrorists are you referring to?

And have you any realiable source about it?
(Hint: NO video, no people testifying that they have heard someone seeing seomthing ...court admissible would be great)

@Metal-Brain said
That is where a lot of USAID funding went by the way.

Please give a reliable source.
Hint: giving hungry people food is not per se supporting terrorism.

@Metal-Brain said


Why do you try to maintain some hypocritical moral high ground? Do I have to make a long list of nations the US government invaded to see the powerful nations do not care about morality?

It is quite clear that the US government has no moral high ground.
However you were the one accusing Zelensky to "continue" a war. Please explain again how he would have been the one to end that war besides just to roll over.

@Metal-Brain said

If Texas declared independence and Russia supported their new government the US would not invade Texas to take it back? You seem to think Ukraine was independent forever. It was a Soviet state. Then the US overthrew Ukraine by coup and tried to make it a NATO nation.

So if the UK will invade the USA you would support them?

And of course you will give Texas bakc to Mexiko?

At whta date you want to freeze the frontiers?

@Suzianne said
Zelenskyy would lose?

Are you demented?

You don't like him only because your orange savior doesn't like him.

Once again, you demonstrate you know nothing.

Putin has far more in common with Hitler than Zelenskyy. Zelenskyy never invaded any sovereign nations. Putin did. Try to remember it.

FOX: We're hearing that Russia wants to force Ukraine to hold new elections in order to sign a sign a peace deal. Is that something that the US would ever support?

TRUMP: We have a situation where we haven't had elections in Ukraine, where we have martial law ... the leader in Ukraine, I hate to say it, but he's down at 4% approval rating... the country has been blown to smithereens... the country looks like a massive demolition site.

4%? Ukrainians cannot wait to get rid of him.
You cannot accept reality as usual.

@Metal-Brain said
FOX: We're hearing that Russia wants to force Ukraine to hold new elections in order to sign a sign a peace deal. Is that something that the US would ever support?

TRUMP: We have a situation where we haven't had elections in Ukraine, where we have martial law ... the leader in Ukraine, I hate to say it, but he's down at 4% approval rating... the country has been bl ...[text shortened]... olition site.

4%? Ukrainians cannot wait to get rid of him.
You cannot accept reality as usual.

So Trump undoubtedly has a good source for that, and it is: ???

have you any good suggestion how to perform election during a war, when a fifth of the territiry is occupied.
Or at the very least do you have any example that is has been done?

@Ponderable said
It is quite clear that the US government has no moral high ground.
However you were the one accusing Zelensky to "continue" a war. Please explain again how he would have been the one to end that war besides just to roll over.

The war could have been avoided in the first place. It was stoked up by the west to keep Russia busy so they couldn't defend Syria anymore. The US government was trying to overthrow Syria. They already took a third of Syria before overthrowing Assad recently. Now the US has all of Syria under a terrorist the US had a bounty on.....but now they dropped the bounty and like the guy. Obvious puppet of the USA. Why else would the US drop the bounty and be fine with him?

@Ponderable said
So Trump undoubtedly has a good source for that, and it is: ???

have you any good suggestion how to perform election during a war, when a fifth of the territiry is occupied.
Or at the very least do you have any example that is has been done?

See my OP for the source.

Wars cannot prevent elections unless they are being quickly overthrown and a fifth is a weak argument. He declared martial law to prevent elections because he could. Now he has no incentive to make peace which he had the option to do years ago and refused.

@Metal-Brain said
The war could have been avoided in the first place.

Indeed if the USA, the UK and Russia would have fulfilled their obligations based on the Budapest memorandum of 1994, wher all these state guaranteed Ukrainien frontiers in exchange for Ukraine's giving up their nuclear weapons.
This should ahev been done when Russia captured Crimea.

@Ponderable said
Please give a reliable source.
Hint: giving hungry people food is not per se supporting terrorism.

Look up which countries got the most funding from USAID. I once posted a link on this forum, but I don't have it bookmarked. Look it up yourself. Most of it went to Ukraine. A lot went to Syria too.

@Ponderable said
What terrorists are you referring to?

And have you any realiable source about it?
(Hint: NO video, no people testifying that they have heard someone seeing seomthing ...court admissible would be great)

You clearly have no idea who the new leader of Syria is. Look it up. It is easy to find if you try. At least try to find out who is running the country now. The corporate news media doesn't want you to know. They don't want to bring it up. Everyone would have to acknowledge Tulsi Gabbard was right all along.

@Ponderable said
And Russia is the ultimate judge about who joins NATO?
So why did the Nato take the FRG into their folds?
And why did the Sowjet Union do nothing against that?

The US, UK and France promised not to expand NATO, but reneged on that promise because it was not in writing.

@Ponderable said
Have you read the Budapest Memorandum? Russia did accept the Ukarine as a sovreign state. So the question about the USSR is silly at best.

Ukraine was heavily influenced by Russia and I doubt Ukraine was ever sovereign. That is just a common lie. The fact that Ukraine is heavily dependent on foreign nations to fund that war is evidence enough Ukraine has no sovereignty.

If Trump yanks all funding to Ukraine to fight that war will Ukraine be sovereign? Will the UK come to their rescue and give them the weapons they need instead of the US? I say this because sovereign leaders do not beg us for weapons.

@Ponderable said
And thus an invasion is a given?

This is a misleading argument at best. HAs nothing to do with Zelensky "continuing the war".

He doesn't want peace.
You didn't read the link I posted in my OP.
You are uninformed. Read a little dude.

Zelensky said he will not honor any peace agreement from his weapons supplier. He must think the UK will pick up where Trump leaves Zelensky with no more free weapons.