Originally posted by slappy115Talk about Jingoistic.
One Japan brought it on THEMSELVES by attacking the US. So war is war.
Ok a few hundred thousand civilians dead as opposed to 2.8 million in total. That's not a bad ratio considering we should have made the communists extinct and you can take that the way I meant it. And by the way, EVERYONE AND I MEAN EVERYONE commits atrocities in war so don't thin ...[text shortened]... his makes sense but it does to ME and that is the ONLY person that matters in this world.
Originally posted by XanthosNZIf you admit to the crime (murder, rape, terrioristic plots, etc.) , then one day later you can speak to Jesus, Mohammad, Buddah or whatever you believe in.
1. It is cheaper to give someone life in prison than it is to carry out the death penalty.
Are you advocating removing the safeguards and appeals currently in place for the death penalty? Hell, if the police think you did you probably did, may as well just shoot you right then.
If every piece of data points to you, e.g. you are on camera killing someone, then you get to explain to whomever why.
If you are convicted and you don't fall into one of the two categories I just mentioned, then life.
The guy admitted to being guilty. What more do you want?
And I never said anything about appeals, those fall into the third "paragraph" above. And I am assuming we are talking about very serious crimes. I consider rape and child molestation crimes which should carry the death penality.
Originally posted by slappy115From a susposed Christian nation? Perhaps a little compassion? Some forgiveness? Perhaps not the attitude of "Kill them all and let God sort the good from the bad."?
If you admit to the crime (murder, rape, terrioristic plots, etc.) , then one day later you can speak to Jesus, Mohammad, Buddah or whatever you believe in.
If every piece of data points to you, e.g. you are on camera killing someone, then you get to explain to whomever why.
If you are convicted and you don't fall into one of the two categories I jus ...[text shortened]... crimes. I consider rape and child molestation crimes which should carry the death penality.
Originally posted by XanthosNZIt is called freedom of religion. I never stated that I was a Christian, did I? If you are a good person and don't do stupid crap like killing and raping. Now if there is a heaven and a hell, which I believe in neither, then oh well I guess I'm screwed. But don't tell me what what or how I should act just because you have some misconception of the US "Christion Nation". Tell me, how much compassion and forgiveness would you have for someone raping your mother and the killing your whole family?
From a susposed Christian nation? Perhaps a little compassion? Some forgiveness? Perhaps not the attitude of "Kill them all and let God sort the good from the bad."?
Think about it.
Originally posted by XanthosNZ1. It's not a question of economics.
Corrections needed for this thread:
1. It is cheaper to give someone life in prison than it is to carry out the death penalty.
2. The only way someone who gets a sentence of life without parole can be let out of prison is if they win an appeal (either being found innocent or getting the sentence reduced) or are issued a pardon by the President.
3. Appeal to emotion is a fallacy for a reason.
4. Strawman is the same.
Personally, the only reason i would not support the death penalty in a case like this is that, as someone pointed out, the perpetrator gets off lightly.
Hard labour. Solitary. No TV, no radio, no newspapers. No chance of parole. Ever.
Originally posted by slappy115I've already mentioned appeal to emotion once in this thread, don't make me do it again.
It is called freedom of religion. I never stated that I was a Christian, did I? If you are a good person and don't do stupid crap like killing and raping. Now if there is a heaven and a hell, which I believe in neither, then oh well I guess I'm screwed. But don't tell me what what or how I should act just because you have some misconception of the US " ...[text shortened]... u have for someone raping your mother and the killing your whole family?
Think about it.
Originally posted by XanthosNZOne I did not read all the posts because I only answer the first or second one and go from there. I haven't read your post yet, but I will, and I'm assuming you mention something to the effect of it being a logical fallacy.
I've already mentioned appeal to emotion once in this thread, don't make me do it again.
And another thing, if I want you to mention it again, I will tell you to. As soon as you begin an argument with me, I do not consider anything that you posted before because it is irrelevant for the aforemention reason.
Originally posted by XanthosNZI read your post, finally, and you are right. Appeals to emotion and the strawman tactic are fallacies and so is snowballing and that happy stuff. I would like to retract my previous statement involving emotion.
I've already mentioned appeal to emotion once in this thread, don't make me do it again.
However, set the debate aside. How would you react?