1. Subscriberjosephw
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    04 Jul '16 16:37
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Does this mean that you must remain totally tea total? like you cannot have a beer?
    My "conversion" from drug and alcohol abuse is a long story. I'll abbreviate it and answer your question.

    First, I got into trouble. Then more trouble. Second, I admitted to myself I had a problem. Then I went and sought help. Then more help. Finally, I resolved the problem by examining myself and discovering the root cause, which was an adolescent predilection to drink and use drugs to excess to bury an even deeper sense of insecurity based in immaturity. Once I had done that I was free of the problem. The solution was to quit it all, which I did abruptly. I grew up.

    I never do, or ever will do drugs again. I enjoy an occasional beer or two. Usually while mowing the lawn on hot summer days. Never in the company of other drinkers or in environments where drinking is the rule.

    My life took a dramatic turn. I will never go back to living the way I did.

    Others must never, ever, take even another sip. Not once. It could kill them, and they know it. I commend that kind of resolve. Never give in to the temptation.
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    04 Jul '16 16:38
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    I can't speak for anyone else. In my case, total abstention is the cure.
    Like I said to VR. Keep the faith.
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    04 Jul '16 17:53
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    I can't speak for anyone else. In my case, total abstention is the cure.
    Ok I understand.
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    04 Jul '16 19:00
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Ok I understand.
    Sir,
    You understand NOTHING unless you've lived through it!
    Kindest Regards,
    Karma is still nipping at your butt,
    -VR
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    04 Jul '16 19:03
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    First of all no one is making fun of anyone. Will you please stop projecting your cynicism, its unwarranted and completely without basis in reality.

    My question was a serious one directed towards HandyAndy and simply attempting to ascertain whether he is completely tee total or whether he can have a beer/glass of wine/glass of cider with a meal. I have NOT attempted to ridicule anyone and I really resent your vile insinuation that I have.
    Sir,
    My apology I thought the question was directed at me.
    It is delicate topic.
    Kindest Regards,
    Karms is still nipping at your butt,
    -VR
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    04 Jul '16 19:06
    Originally posted by josephw
    I too was in the clutches of drugs and alcohol for over two decades. Finally saw the light. Been clean since 92. Keep the faith Rusty.
    Josephw,
    As I said if I see next March 22/17 it will mark 25 years. It was very difficult at first. Now I can't even stand the smell of the stuff.
    -VR
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    04 Jul '16 19:09
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    If you had watched the video prior to posting your inane drivel you would see that it was a serious question.
    The video was not directed to me it was for someone else. I never look at any of your VIDEOS that you POST anyways.
    Kindest Regards,
    Karma is still nipping hard on your butt,
    -VR
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    04 Jul '16 19:12
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    Sir,
    You understand NOTHING unless you've lived through it!
    Kindest Regards,
    Karma is still nipping at your butt,
    -VR
    I was not saying that I understand what it is like to be a reformed alcoholic I was merely saying that I understand that for HandyAndy total abstinence is what he practices.
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    04 Jul '16 19:14
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    The video was not directed to me it was for someone else. I never look at any of your VIDEOS that you POST anyways.
    Kindest Regards,
    Karma is still nipping hard on your butt,
    -VR
    Its a video of Richard Burton explaining what its like to be alcoholic and the fight that is needed to overcome it.
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    04 Jul '16 19:15
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    Sir,
    My apology I thought the question was directed at me.
    It is delicate topic.
    Kindest Regards,
    Karms is still nipping at your butt,
    -VR
    Sure thing no worries, I am hopeless at keeping grudges for very long anyway.
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    04 Jul '16 19:16
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I was not saying that I understand what it is like to be a reformed alcoholic I was merely saying that I understand that for HandyAndy total abstinence is what he practices.
    Sir,
    Your statement has been acknowledged.
    -VR
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    04 Jul '16 19:191 edit
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    Sir,
    Your statement has been acknowledged.
    -VR
    Elephants can't climb stairs.

    Kindly acknowledge my statement.

    Live long and prosper.
    Ghost
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    04 Jul '16 19:191 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Sure thing no worries, I am hopeless at keeping grudges for very long anyway.
    Sir,
    I never hold grudges it is just a waste of time & energy. Worrying is also a waste of time, what will be, will be in my humble opinion. That I understand could be debatable.
    -VR
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