A thread for midwives to mingle.

A thread for midwives to mingle.

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@divegeester said
Women “traditionally” have been paid less than men. Is the “traditional” card the one you really want to play?
What do you mean? I believe in progress not tradition.

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@kewpie said
Australia has 500-odd male midwives. Plenty of male nurses too. Only people with archaic religious customs would have a problem with that.
Half our current trade apprentices are female. Nobody objects when the female plumber arrives to fix the leaks.
Exactly.

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Seems that on this thread it has become clear that there are more insults being delivered than babies.

And so it comes to mind....birds of a feather flock together.

Here is to the good old delivery system, to the storks of yester-years.

How many here know that the business of midwifery was not limited to delivering babies, once upon a time?

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@kewpie said
Australia has 500-odd male midwives. Plenty of male nurses too. Only people with archaic religious customs would have a problem with that.
Half our current trade apprentices are female. Nobody objects when the female plumber arrives to fix the leaks.
And as for Mexican females? They really are something else!


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@torunn said
What do you mean? I believe in progress not tradition.
You said it was “traditional” for women to be midwives rather than men, and you then went on to say that “one could argue that women are more suited” (to being midwives), following up with the lack of experience of childbirth also impacting.
That doesn’t sound a very progressive mindset to me.

Here’s your post, so people don’t mistake me as misrepresenting what you wrote.

I believe midwives are traditionally women and so were nurses and nursing assistants earlier. That is changing, or has changed and we will most likely meet more male midwives too. One could argue that women are more suited but all midwives haven't personal experiences from giving birth for different reasons, young age for instance. It's not a well-paid profession but if men choose that education, it might improve things for women as well.

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@pettytalk said
Seems that on this thread it has become clear that there are more insults being delivered than babies.
Sounds like you in threads over the last few days.

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@divegeester said
You said it was “traditional” for women to be midwives rather than men, and you then went on to say that “one could argue that women are more suited” (to being midwives), following up with the lack of experience of childbirth also impacting.
That doesn’t sound a very progressive mindset to me.

Here’s your post, so people don’t mistake me as misrepresenting what you w ...[text shortened]... ell-paid profession but if men choose that education, it might improve things for women as well.[/i]
Please Dive, if you don't like what I post, don't read it. I get tired with you sometimes, you can't accept that I don't express myself as explicitly and well as you do. I would in Swedish though. Just leave it, please.

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@pettytalk said
Seems that on this thread it has become clear that there are more insults being delivered than babies.

And so it comes to mind....birds of a feather flock together.
You’re a relative newcomer. You’ll learn how to navigate the bun (sorry) fights in time like the rest of us did.

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@torunn said
Please Dive, if you don't like what I post, don't read it. I get tired with you sometimes.
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Being able to coexist courteously with people who may have different mindsets is an art, and Torunn does this very well. It's possible for most of us, if we control the natural instinctive belief that one's own ideas are the only right ones.

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For Christ's sake! The world is coming to an end, do we really want any more babies delivered? They will have to be sent back, address unknown, no such number, no such zone, 3rd Rock from the Sun. No one lives there any longer. All dead and gone. See Voyager 1 or 2 for the forwarding address on record.

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@torunn said
Please Dive, if you don't like what I post, don't read it. I get tired with you sometimes, you can't accept that I don't express myself as explicitly and well as you do. I would in Swedish though. Just leave it, please.
It’s a discussion. I have always found you to be well able to express yourself in English. It’s nothing to do with wether I like what you post, I’m just responding to it.

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@kewpie said
Being able to coexist courteously with people who may have different mindsets is an art, and Torunn does this very well. It's possible for most of us, if we control the natural instinctive belief that one's own ideas are the only right ones.
Has anyone been discourteous to Torunn?

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@pettytalk said
For Christ's sake! The world is coming to an end, do we really want any more babies delivered? They will have to be sent back, address unknown, no such number, no such zone, 3rd Rock from the Sun. No one lives there any longer. All dead and gone. See Voyager 1 or 2 for the forwarding address on record.
What do you think about the topic of male midwives?

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@torunn said
Please Dive, if you don't like what I post, don't read it.
Here's a possible compromise. divegeester undertakes not to read your posts and you undertake not to say anything in them that he wouldn't like if he did. Everybody happy.

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